Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-11276487-20131125022524/@comment-11276487-20131223034833

Hawkeye2701 wrote: Nausiated wrote: However as an adult, I look to the entire history of Spider-Man since 1962 and the character has always been about Peter always being the under dog. If Peter had things going his way, things got stagnant. If he kept the wife, if he had the kid, heck if you want to go back and talk about keeping Gwen Stacy alive even... These were all things that put Spider-Man in a dead end. With happiness from some place else, he can then probably get over the loss of his Uncle Ben. If he loses sight of the "Great Power/Great Responsibility" thing then why even be Spider-Man? The fact is, Peter's sense of responsibility and the regret for not being able to save the lives of those he lost along the way is what drives him to continue being Spider-Man.

The problem there is, he then always ends up the underdog in the same way and it's boooooring. Just because a character has happiness doesn't mean they can't still be the underdog, and it doesn't mean he'd lose sight of what he learned from Uncle Ben just because something makes him happy. By that sort of logic, Peter himself could be some psycho constantly seeking his own downfall just to make sure he's not happy enough to forget Uncle Ben, and that's the problem. There's never an idea of "What Fresh Hell is this?!" It's always the same hell, it's always Uncle Ben's death and Aunt May.

They never let him face a new sort of challenge that isn't 'Fixed' in some way later.

As for One More Day, that's even worse. It's not even forcing Peter into the same old Underdog position, it's a literal reset to before he married MJ. You can't make him face the sorrow of losing his child/wife because he doesn't even remember it. If you wanted to kick him again, kill Aunt May, keep the miscarriage, make him miserable, but don't back pedal him to being some 25 year old man-child.

There are ways to continue Spider-Man as Spider-Man without retracing old work. In his career, Peter has made two or three fixed points, Uncle Ben dies, He becomes Spider-Man with the Good Old Mantra, Gwen Stacy dies. Not to mention dozens of smaller points, like the Green Goblin, Venom, Ben Reilly etc. Why can all these things stay and exist under the blanket of Spider-Man canon, but things like being married, having a kid or such can't? Im gonna be honest with you people, when I was kid watching Spider-man the animated series, I never felt like a kid at all watching it, I didnt understand exactly why I was feeling this, when I watch Digimon(Not counting Season 3, kind of not counting season 4),Power Rangers,and Dragon ball z my manchild goes crazy, but when I watch Spiderman I dont feel that way, Its my childhood but not something that made me feel like a child much at all, Spiderman seemed very real to me, but I wasnt sure why I felt that. When I was 8 years old I always thought of Spiderman and Mary Jane having a kid over and over and over again because It seemed so possible but there was something I felt inside that was holding me back making me wonder why he could have a child? Spiderman is not something I consider to be for kids but for people who support a someone who is just like us. Stan Lee said it himself that on the inside Spiderman is really Peter Parker, your friendly neighborhood Spider-man.