Thread:Undoniel/@comment-1618941-20140608113102/@comment-3406131-20140608193929

You're pushing it too far instead of seeing the simplicity behind what I say: WarBlade wrote: Citizenship is primarily a product of where someone was born. Under laws of many countries dual citizenship is also automatically granted to a child based on where his/her mother was from. And citizenship can also be granted to migrants through lengthy assimilation processes.

Citizenship might conceivably be conveyed by racial/ancestral background, but this would be rare, and should therefore not be templated in as automatic, except in those rare cases where it actually happens. The Shi'ar Empire list in its subcategories the species that are under its rules as a general information. It is not a matter of exactitude, it is an info: They are species who are mainly under the rule of that Empire. If you want exactitude, you can remove them, but if you want to inform people, the list here is useful (Even if an article completed would be better and simpler).

WarBlade wrote: And now you're talking about allegiance. That's quite different to citizenship. I'm talking about the child: The way of life of the parents can have an impact on citizenship of their offspring: I am talking for exampls of a pure pink-skinned Kree raised on Earth by Kree, but "officially" american (recorded in the administration, etc). I was thinking of Tsu-Zana (Earth-616) but I can't manage to find a proof that she's american.

For the citizenship mess, that's exactly why we need to restore a better "AlienRace" field on the character template, to lighten both citizenship and origin: The AlienRace (move to "species" or "species/race/type") doesn't worked, so people started to add any species to it, and presumably started to think "Kree", "Shi'ar" or "Skrull" were citizenships (maybe others thought animals with no citizenships were citizeshiply described by their species?). So I intervened to change with "Kree Empire", etc. But character like Ms. Marvel prevented from adding "Kree" to auto-categorization with origin. So we really need to restore a species field, and there will a lot of work then.