Thread:Undoniel/@comment-4651179-20151208181734/@comment-3406131-20151208205355

AAAAAAAAAAAAH. Sorry, my computer stabbed me in the back for the third time, and I keep loosing stuff I was writing.

To shorten my previous attempt:
 * I agree on the principle
 * But the pages are empty, so I intend to fill them (Adventures of the X-Men, Taa-ans, Taa, Earth-0) with all the content available, in order for us to have a complete basis on which to work, and adapt the future content.


 * It's not a simple "0"-616 continuation, but the death of the 6th "Omniverse" (really, it look like he meant Multiverse, like the previous material did) including "Earth-0" (which isn't a right designation), and the birth of the following Multiverse, including Earth-616. The use of the term "universe" is seemingly misleading.
 * Returning on the matter of the talk page: Sorry if I look stubborn (I am, in fact), but I still don't see the argument leading the previous universe to be "Earth-616".

I just checked the internet to see how others see the problem. I found nothing of interest, except (for mutants)
 * ''"First guy: The terrigenisis bomb was created by Maximus, who is a batshit lunatic, my guess is that whatever he did to the standard Terrigen Mists to maximize the efficiency of the bomb is why the Mutants are suddenly having such a toxic reaction to it.
 * "Second guy: The universe restarted after Secret Wars, so it's possible whatever effect the mists had before is no longer valid."

On the matter, an explanation
 * ''"Third Guy: It's still 616, only it's the 8th iteration of the multiverse. Galactus (and it's equivalent in other dimensions) was from the 6th one. It's still 616, only now there's elements from the Ultimate universe as well as remnants from some Secret Wars splinter universes, because Doom.


 * ''"Fourth Guy (quoted): In New Avengers, this new universe is referred to as the eighth cycle that the universe has been reborn into. 616 was the seventh, and Galactus' original universe was the sixth. That's the closest I've seen so far.
 * "Third Guy (answer): Nah, the multiverse is the 8th one. 616 is still one of many universes."


 * "Fifth Guy: This 8th cycle stuff doesn't make sense because the universe didn't start anew, it just picked up where it left off. When Galactus crossed over from the 6th to the 7th, that was the death and birth of everything - he was the last and the first being. Here it's not like they've skipped billions of years of everything just to tell stories in the present."

That gives us a few examples on how people handle it.

I'm kind of surprised Secret Wars #9 won't come out until January (I doubt the conclusion restoring Earth-616 among the 8th Multiverse will be present on the #8). Also Ultimates Vol 2 2 tomorrow.

So I will complete the related pages under "Earth-0", given this is the only trail designation we have as far. In any case, the completion is to be done at some point, better do it now and then correct if needed. I think we did it on other occasions to prepare pages for new material. In order to simplify the possible change, I will not create the Earth-0 X-Men pages for now (I've created Arkon (Earth-0) as I had edited Arkon (Earth-92131) before), but simply complete Taa-ans, Taa, Earth-0 and possibly Galan (Earth-0).