Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27766744-20160525044527/@comment-4651179-20160525182254

Xelloss.nakama wrote:

What happened when Reed restarted the universe... what changed? what not? what plots from the last days of the old universe happened and which one were erased? What things were retconned, and which ones only changed during the 8 months jump?

The Marvel Universe is virtually the same as before. What changed is the presence of characters from other universes, as sort of a byproduct of Reed re-creating the Marvel Universe. The only notorious change to the Marvel Universe itself was Molecule Man inserting Miles Morales' life into it. Miles' life is the piece of a puzzle (the Ultimate Universe), and Owen modified the borders of another puzzle (the Marvel Universe) a little bit so it could fit nicely.

All of the events from Last Days happened, none of it was retconned. It appears that when Reed rebuilt the Marvel Universe, he decided to amend the casualties caused directly and/or indirectly by the end of the universe. This is why the villains that Punisher killed in Secret Wars #1 and the Shi'ar Imperial Guard are alive. They all had died as a consequence of the universe coming to an end, even if it wasn't by the world-ending event directly.

Who survived Battleworld, and who remember (and what exactly) what happened there?

All of the people in both Life Rafts and Doctor Doom apparently remember what happened in Battleworld.

The amount of people that survived Battleworld is unknown. A few were sent back to their restored realities, a few to the restored Earth-616, and a few remained in the remains of the planet (like Maestro).

How much new is the new universe, and how much old one remained?

The new universe is not "new-new." It's the old Marvel Universe restored. Like I mentioned above, virtually the only difference is the presence of certain characters like Miles Morales or Old Man Logan.

Of course, there are certain things different from the Marvel Universe when we had last seen it, like the Triskelion. But these developments are explained as having happened during the eight-month gap, and not as a consequence of the universe's restoration.

These are all questions that deserved to be answered in parts, comic by comic... when I don't think even wrtiters really agreed in their new comic with what happened months ago... We can see things like Thor and Hyperion alive... but also a Dr Espectrum wanting revenge for what happened during secret wars... We have a Fairy Angela from Battlworld walking around, not to mention a very different Leah... He have multiverse comics as Contest of Champions and Web Warriors... in a multiverse that seems unchanged and the same time very changed...

I don't really see how do those developments show that the writers don't know what they're doing. Like I mentioned early, some characters that were in Battleworld happened to end up in the Marvel Universe instead of their own reality (if it has been restored).

And I don't read Squadron Supreme, but if I recall correctly, Doctor Spectrum wants revenge for what happened before Battleworld, when her home universe was destroyed by Namor and (indirectly) the Illuminati.

And the entirety of this new status quo is that the Marvel Multiverse is the same, but at the same time it's not.

I start with a simple question... Did thor die battling the beyonders? Because as we could see (spoiler alert!!) in the last mighty thor issues... he seems alive... but no comic (and I have read all of them since the "no-reset") have any answer to what happened with him... Hyperion is alive too... and remember what happened in Secret Wars too... So, did Thor died and was reborn with Hyperion, or was some part of "last days of 616" retconned? Perhaps you remember some tip about this in some comic I missed... or you understood something I didn't...

Thor seems alive because Reed Richards brough him back to life as a consequence of bringing the inhabitants of the Marvel Universe back to life. What he lived through during the Last Days still happened.

Another one: What happened with the multiverse apart from 616 and 6160? From Squadron Supreme we can think that all universes from before incursions died with them, and the new multiverse is made from new universes created by "Reed and son"... (as they are survivors of that dead worlds) But then we have Web Warriors... with most universes still alive and well, as for example Gwen, Spidergirl (Peter's daughter) and Miss Spider Lady (I don't remember her name, the one from the old England era) worlds seem unaffected... (although Spider Britain still remain with his universe erased in an incursion (?!)). So what? Universes erased untill some point in the "last days" saga continue erased, but others were never killed in incursions? Or are there universes remade in such ways they never realised they were killed and remade, but others kept dead and survivors remember it? Or perhaps survivors remember the dead worlds because they survive the incursions, but people who died in the incursions (almost everybody) just thing the new universes were always there? (and so the characters in web warriors could be new characters with retconned stories similar to the dead ones?)

With Secret Wars, everything ended. Reed Richard didn't rebuild all of the Multiverse at once. He first rebuilt the Marvel Universe and carried on to recreate the other universe that perished. The other universes that remain destroyed is because he simply didn't bring them back yet.

Every universe was remade in such a way their inhabitants don't remember there was a eight-year gap during which they were dead. Remembering what happened in-between is an exception, not the norm. So far, the only characters that remember Battleworld were indeed those that survived the incursion that destroyed their realities.