Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-61022-20160330220251/@comment-3406131-20160331174901

ADour wrote: Designating every character from the Kingdom of Manhattan as "Earth-61610" brings up some problems:


 * As I already mentioned, the Kingdom of Manhattan was not composed of the remains of a single reality, but two. So a character from the Kingdom of Manhattan can't be from "Earth-61610." And when the two portions of the domain merged, it was their remains, not their entire realities. As an analogy, taking a bunch of people from France and a buch of people from Spain and mixing them together doesn't make them from "Spance."


 * What about characters from Ultimate End that existed as both their Marvel Universe and their Ultimate Universe counterparts, like Hawkeye, Storm, etc.?
 * That reality is the reality where both those two realities are merged. That's not very different from a reality where DC and Marvel are merged, or in fact any reality: The reality designates the merger of a version of 616 and 1610 (we do know there has been many "616" who weren't in fact 616, like Earth-81211), or a reality who was always (seemingly) a merger of the element of those two, somehow. That's stupid I know, but we really don't need to bother about it, because, well, it's that way.
 * Primestar3 answer seems good.

Primestar3 wrote: ADour wrote: I found a bit odd the designation for the Kingdom of Manhattan. It states it's Earth-61610.

The problem is that the handbook doesn't establish which of the two merged sections it belongs to. Of course, an answer would be "the both of them, because they were merged." However, that's not true because only their remains were physically juxtaposed, not the realities themselves

"Earth-61610" seems to be more of an alias, and not an actual reality number. I don't know if the accuracy of this designation affects another stated fact, that the two realities that made the Kingdom of Manhattan aren't Earth-616 and Earth-1610 but similar realities. I wouldn't think hard on it. I think Anthony Stark (Earth-616-Variant) (Earth-61610) and Anthony Stark (Earth-610-Variant) (Earth-16160) would work, since they're specifically said to be not the true universes, although they would be a little confusing with so many numbers and earths. Seems fine to me.

We had other realities with multiple versions. Instead of having two characters in loop (a character of Marvel/DC and Professor W's X-Men's Shadowcat are the only cases I can think of right now), we have them in parallel.

SunGodKizaru wrote: The Many-Angled One wrote: SunGodKizaru wrote: Frankly I didn't understand why Brevoort said that, I think it makes perfect sense they are the 616 ones, Doom wants Earth-616 Sue not a different one and the kids look exactly the same, I know it's comics, but Doctor Doom isn't related to Reed Richards(they could have the excuse if they were brothers) so the kids can't look exactly the same or at least that would be a dumb art decision, I think them and everyone from the foundation are the 616 people that "died". Doom was god, he could've make them look like anything he wanted them to. Sure and he likes Valeria, but I would assume he would want his own kids, still sure he could that, still think it makes more sense for him to want what Reed had. Mmmmh, I don't think so. Kristoff is his adoptive son (IIRC), and I don't think he has issues with having a blood heir over an adoptive one.