User blog comment:Sabilsadat/How Spider-Man and the X-Men "spiritually" may still exist in the Marvel Cinematic Universe/@comment-61022-20141126042926

You seem to waste a lot of your mental energy on trivialities. Time for a little dose of reality.

First of all, to sit there and speculate on how Marvel can get the film rights for Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, and X-Men is a waste of energy. If it's going to ever happen it's going to have to be because the franchises are no longer profitable for Sony or Fox, or Marvel buys out the current contract. As for all this speculation and theorizing on how these characters can fit into the Marvel Cinematic Universe or not is also a waste of energy in my mind. Why even both focusing on something like that when (a) you have no creative control over such a situation and (b) it's unlikely to happen anytime soon.

And why is rebooting something invariably bad? That is a bull!@#$ mentality if you ask me. We have been remaking and rebooting stories since human beings first started telling stories. Even if you were going to focus primarily on cinema, we have been remaking movies since the 1910s. It's not a new phenomenon, and just because they do it doesn't mean a remake or a reboot is crap. I wish people would just save criticism until after there is an actual final product to critique.

Also let's point out some inaccuracies in your statements: (And for future reference, it helps if you cite references to what you're talking about)

First of all, Marvel and Sony being in talks about the Spider-Man franchise (SOURCE: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=56105 )

First thing with this is the fact that it starts with RUMOR in capital letters. Which 99.9% of the time it's crap made up by fan sites to generate internet traffic. So unless it's an actual *joint* announcement from both Marvel and Sony, then don't even waste the energy reading articles like this. They're garbage. They've always been garbage. Just because neither camp is saying anything about it does not give the rumor credibility either.

"Fox and Marvel don't really play well, evidenced in the fact that Fantastic Four comics have ended and Wolverine has been killed (all Fox-owned characters). But I still think that if a few plot holes are fixed, then Spidey, X-Men and the yet to come FF can all co-exist in the MCU." (Source: http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/ )

Really? This is what you define as proof that there is a spat between Marvel and Fox? First of all, look up the words "speculation", "rumor" and "theory" these are not words commonly used to describe actual fact. Also, Screenrant is another garbage link bait website that tailors their articles to generate as many clicks as possible to capitalizing on advertising metrics, as any site that HAS A REAL TIME COUNTER OF ALL THE PEOPLE VISITING THAT PAGE.

This is article (and all the subsequent other ones Screenrant and other blogs have crapped out about the Fantastic Four franchise) are writing articles with deceptive language and you seem to think that it's fact just because a sort-of professional looking website says so.

I think you need to take some lessons on objectivity.

Anyway, your statement on Fantastic Four being cancelled... Where are you getting this? If you look at Marvel's publication catalogue, you'll note that while Fantastic Four Vol 5 is ending, that's because Marvel is flipping back to the Fantastic Four Vol 1 numbering starting with. The only Fantastic Four title that has been cancelled was Ultimate FF Vol 1. Which is hardly a scathing indictment of the Fantastic Four franchise. The primary FF title is still in publication.

That said, why on EARTH would Marvel even think about cancelling the one series that put them on the map? That is by far the most monumentally stupid thing I have ever heard any of you people even utter on here. And it's based on the idea that Marvel somehow hates the fact that they don't control the rights to these movies that they're going to tarnish a brand that makes them money?

Reality check time -- Marvel can still: (a) Publish comic books based on these characters(b) ditto for cartoons cartoons (c) license out the characters for merchandising and other consumer ventures. (d) even though Fox owns the rights to making Fantastic Four and X-Men related films. Meaning that even though they aren't making them they're still getting a good amount of money for the franchise rights.

Sure it's not as much money as if they were producing these films themselves, but you have to keep in mind that the powers that be at Disney have likely done tons of market research and risk assessment and determined it's more cost effective to let Fox and Sony take risks with these franchises and collect the royalty money than it would be to buy the franchise rights back and try to salvage them into something usable.

Last point: Killing off Wolverine --- Again, I don't know where you are seeing this as a slight against Fox. Because how is killing off one of their most popular characters going to affect Fox from making more movies featuring Wolverine? He's still very much part of the pop culture landscape of the X-Men and Marvel in general.

What you're missing is this: It's a going trend that big name characters get killed off every once and a while to boost sales. Look at Superior Spider-Man as the best most recent example. It's a money maker. Wolverine is going to be dead anywhere between six months to two years and then they're going to come up with some way to bring him back to life and print off a ton of related comics to get gullible people like you who fail to see these rather obvious marketing ploys to buy up again and again.