User blog comment:Mr. Xemnas/2 seperate marevl cinematic universe's?????/@comment-1895174-20130201050316/@comment-3317214-20130207003821

That's okay. Anyway, I merged a couple of points that I thought were getting to be pretty much the same thing.

1/X) Okay, well, not liking the realism is clearly your opinion, and one that many people would disagree with. Having said that I wouldn't mind seeing a slightly more comicbookishly-supernatural Batman film, but I'm not sure that it could beat Nolan's trilogy in terms of quality. As for representing the "real Batman" in a movie:

He is a fictional character that has been around for over 70 years. You say that the "real Batman" wouldn't do this or that, when the "real Batman" has been overly camp, overly gritty and every shade in between. Are you talking about Finger's Batman, Miller's Batman, Silver Age, New 52? The Batman that just shoots his villains, or the Batman that swears not to. The Batman that works alone, or the Batman that is a team player with the Justice League and trains little kids as sidekicks?''

Batman is capable of a lot of things, in a way, like Superman, except that instead of these things being blatant supernatural powers, they are more intricate and complicated, and hence require much more screen time to display them. And on top of that, it wouldn't be realistic to display all of them, because he is after all, a human being.

What human being is a superb strategist, the world's greatest detective, a crime-fighter who has mastered basically every form of martial arts including hand-to-hand combat, is an expert with every melee weapon, a master of disguise, a master of stealth, the sole inventor/creator of all of his gear including a utility belt which has contained a limitless variety of gadgets, a skilled marksman, intimidator, interrogator, acrobat, escapologist, pilot, tracker, hacker, multi-lingual genius-level scientist who has extensively studied Maths, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Technology, Mythology, Geography, History, Criminal Science, Forensics, Computer Science and Engineering, has a photographic memory, and is at the peak of physical and mental conditioning, and is immune to mind control? He's just as superpowered as Superman in a way, but because he isn't superpowered at all, it makes him less believeable than a Super bullet-proof alien from another planet that can defy gravity. Just because the "real Batman" does all of this, it doesn't mean you should try and squash every single one of those things into the trilogy.

That would just be stupid.

4) The statements I quoted didn't make sense because they were both in reference to the movie. One said that the movie about Batman erradicating crime, and the other said that it it wasn't and didn't have enough Batman. What you meant might have been different, and your explanation makes sense, but that's not what you said. However, whether or not you contradicted yourself is irrelevant.

I'm talking about the WHOLE trilogy as well. What I was saying was that we're shown the humanity of Batman throughout the whole trilogy (and a clear example of this is the first part of TDKR). However, your argument this time, seems to put more hate on The Dark Knight rather than Rises or Begins...

5/8-4) That's not the "Hell yeah!" moment. The "Hell yeah!" moment comes after Talia and Bane's plan is foiled and the bomb explodes without destroying Gotham. But as I said before, it's a little more complex and intellectual, which in a way kinda makes it even more "Hell yeah!". You're right in that having that moment with the reveal of Talia is a fall, but that makes the storyline that much more tense and epic, and the plot that much more brilliant, and the victory and RISE of Batman (which happens after the reveal of Talia, not before as you think - whether he dies or not) that much more glorious.

11) You're just speculating here. Where's your proof that he was "controlled by Talia". Couldn't they have been working together? And even if he was Talia's puppet, it doesn't mean that he's just a thug. Bane showed intelligence and strength throughout the whole movie. And they weren't lessened just by revealing Talia was behind the whole thing as well.

Sidenote, I feel like my responses are getting longer, even though there's less points...