Thread:Artful Dodger/@comment-100066-20150929175110

I have read the threads and history and I could use some clarifications. Please tell me if I have the following correct:

What is agreed upon: The name "Scotland Yard" refers to the Met's headquarters, although it has been used incorrectly in the past as a metonym for the entire organization, both in 616 and 1218. Sometimes Marvel characters refer to themselves as being from Scotland Yard, which could mean the actual Scotland Yard or the Met.

Tony: You would like to use the terms The Met, the Old Bill, and the Bill as aliases, although you don't see the need to provide references for them since those are widely known and accepted terms for the Met in 1218. You would like for the alias "Scotland Yard" to not be used as an alias for the entire Met, since it is not used as an alias in 1218.

Undoniel: You would like for characters who refer to themselves as being from Scotland Yard to retain that information and reference because they did use that term, whether they were correct or not. You would like references provided for the aliases of the Met as well as the factual information about its membership and equipment.

Assuming that I have the above information correct (please tell me if I don't), here's what makes sense to me about this situation:
 * Writers and editors often add things to comics which may or may not be correct. Once they are written, our job as a database is to record what was created. We also have a way to record the accuracy of what happened. In this case, we can record the fact that characters and places are referred to by one name, and we can then clarify the accuracy of their statements in the Notes or Trivia sections.


 * References are of primary importance to our site, but we can go overboard if we aren't careful. Needing to provide a reference to the fact that police officers use police cars and other vehicles is excessive and shouldn't be required. However, very specific data such as "49,000 personnel, including more than 31,000 serving police officers" is clearly a 1218 fact. Unless you can provide a 616 reference, that information should be removed.


 * Information that we draw from our knowledge of 1218 can certainly apply to 616 things, even if it is not explicitly stated or referenced. The President is commonly called "POTUS" in 1218 and can be called that in 616 without a specific comic reference. Likewise, common 1218 terms like the Met, the Old Bill (or the CIA being referred to as "Langley" or Broadway being called "The Great White Way") can be used as 616 terms even if they don't show up in comics. It would be wrong for us to assume that they cannot be called by those terms even if they haven't yet been called that by Marvel.

I appreciate both of your passions about this subject and I'm sure we can figure this out. Let me know if you agree with my thoughts. 