Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-7823447-20140421150120/@comment-7823447-20140913225951

ADour wrote: Bumblebee073 wrote: If Iron Man didn't have his armor he would be crushed by Steve Rogers. Even with the 25 pounds of dead weight provided by his armor, Iron Man would be crushed. He has barely any natural fighting ability, just brains, while Cap has both Brains and Braun which complement each other perfectly. Before he was Captain America, Steve was an incredible strategist. Iron Man can shoot repulsers, BIG WHOOP! Even if they switched defenses (Tony Stark with the shield & Cap with the armor), Cap would still be able to figure the armor's tech out before Tony could figure out how to throw the shield, let alone having it come back. Therefore, Captain America WINS! you have a great point

Are you defining which character wins in a brawl by doing anything but making them go against each other in their normal ways?

It's like "Who would win, Hawkeye or Black Widow? Black Widow obviously, because if they happened to change weapons, she knows how to shoot arrows, while Hawkeye doesn't have a maestry with firearms." Or "Who would win, Silver Surfer or the Thing? The Thing, because before being transformed he knew boxing, while Norrin Radd was only an astronomer."

It makes no sense.

PS: Regarding pre-Serum Cap. You forgot that he was rejected from the army for being 4-F. He was sick and fragile. I don't think he could even try to win a fight against pre-suit Tony Stark.