Thread:The Many-Angled One/@comment-24812000-20160405014631/@comment-24812000-20161111041856

Alright you have some fair points, here are some more of mine. My hope is to resolve this dispute, not to keep arguing, but it is ideal if one of us proves the other wrong on an issue completely, no? Anyway, here goes:

Okay yes Levins first appeared in Cap and "died" in Punisher, but that was when he was already dead. His reanimated corpse died in Punisher. He truly died in Civil War, like his article says. I'm surprised the other Jester isn't there too if that's true. I know it makes sense for it to be a Macendale Jack O'Lantern and Leeds Hobgoblin, but it also made sense for the 616 and 1610 characters to be in the Secret Wars: Ultimate End series but that wasn't the case. It is just not the actual information we have.

And Macendale actually was granted a strength-increasing formula sometime between Spider-Man #47 and 49. (not sure which exact one). And on his subject, the Jack O'Lantern of Secret War ISN'T him. He died before that. That Jack O'Lantern used several false aliases, including Hobgoblin and Mad Jack. He had no cybernetics like Macendale did upon his death. This guy was interrogated by SHIELD and it was determined that he was lying, and furthermore generally mentally ill.

I do agree that it's probably not Maguire actually tho.