Thread:Undoniel/@comment-3406131-20180524232225/@comment-3406131-20180527092049

Nausiated wrote: A workaround to the "Staff" issue is to put a preface in the bio explaining that they did not work for Marvel, but had their works adapted by Marvel staff members. Seems good to me. A simple template could do the trick.

I think to recall that there are also some categories that appear that are related to Marvel staff, and possibly some errors on the infobox.

Nausiated wrote: Other adaptations to add to the list:

I kept the simple use of characters created out because that would apply to almost all recent comics, who have "Characters created by Stan Lee" in their credits, and to almost all Conan and Solomon Kane stories who mentions "characters created by Robert E. Howard". Same occurs seemingly all along Master of Kung Fu.
 * Doc Savage
 * Master of Kung Fu (for the use of Fu Manchu and related characters)
 * Star Wars (since they are all adapted from the works of George Lucas)

The original target of the field is not "stories using any material adapted from creations other authors" (to be added to the creator field of the page of said creation) but really "stories adapted from other authors' writings and publications": stories, novel, poems and plots, but that could include movies, toys, video games, as long as the comics adapt part or all of the story or plot (and that it is mentioned somewhere, usually in the credits, but I'm about to add another author to -, mentioned in to be a plot inspirer). In other words, it's really the story and not the comics that is an adaptation. It's pretty much a complement to the writer field of the comics template, and a way to remove the non-Marvel authors from it while crediting them for their work.

I don't think that having that kind of credits about "characters created by said author" included in "story adapted said story by said author" would be useful. Instead, either not caring at all about it (or a mentions in the notes of the issues), or a field/category "Issues using characters created by"

By that system, in the case of Star Wars, it would be like REH-adapted works: a comics is "adapted" if the story is (even freely) adapted from, not if it only includes "characters created by".

On Star Wars, it will consequently depend as it does for Conan (Except for #1 and #2, I checked issues randomly):
 * Doc Aphra is seemingly an original story, with no mention of any adaptation.
 * is obviously an adaptation of Episode IV, and the credits mention it being an adaptation in his credits.
 * and #8 are 'based on the film by George Lucas": adptation
 * states it is "adventures beyond the greatest space-fantasy film of all and that it is ""continuing the saga begun in the film by George Lucas": not an adaptation.
 * is ""continuing the saga begun in the film by George Lucas": not an adaptation.
 * is mentioned to be the adaptation of the Empire Strikes Back.
 * Then in #55 and #66, no mentions: presumably original stories, so the field wouldn't be used then either.

Nausiated wrote: I think the category can be broadened a bit more because comics are not just adapted from stories written by other people, but they are also adapted from other things. The big one would be comics adapted from toy lines (Transformers, Micronauts, G.I. Joe, ROM, Shogun Warriors, etc.) By now, I have found no mention of an adaptation in the issues I read of those. That would qualify these as using other people' creation (to be added to the creator field of the page of said creation) rather than adapting a story. For now, I would be against adding the toys (but that can evolve), except if a mention of adaptation from a story can be found (same as the other comics), the very question of the creator of a subject being already covered on the subject page (while the one of the original author of a story/plot isn't as well).

I think we could implement the strictest understanding of the template (stories adapted), while discussing broader use here. I'm sure we'll find new cases to be included or not.

On a side-note, the list of issues checked among your examples, and where they would lie in the idea I have of that field:
 * Adaptations: Some Star Wars stories, Doc Savage (at least )
 * Original stories not included in the field: Some Star Wars stories Transformers (at least not, ), Micronauts (at least not , G.I. Joe (at least not , Rom (at least ), Shogun Warriors (at least not ), Master of Kung Fu (at least not , , , , ,  and )