Board Thread:Administrative/@comment-61022-20150818130902/@comment-3406131-20150819063057

GrnMarvl14 wrote: There's also the issue of Ultimate End. Clearly the 616 characters, at the least, aren't the actual 616 characters (Peter Parker's presence there and as one of the survivors, a living 616 Iron Man), or it's some sort of pre-incursion backup. But Eetmi's right. Best to wait for the Handbook before making a final call. Might shed some light, or prevent us from making a mistake. That's right, those 616 and 1610 characters seems to me to be merely Battleworld 616 and 1610 versions. Isn't Cyclops there as well ?

From what I read on Red Skull, Magneto is the Age of X version (or close to it), like all those who have flashbacks of incursion. But even then, it might be alternate versions of alternate realities.