Board Thread:Administrative/@comment-3048593-20160419182203/@comment-61022-20160419200638

Duellante magic wrote: Yes, Earth-0 is the true designation of X-Men Adventures Vol 1, X-Men Adventures Vol 2, X-Men Adventures Vol 3, The Adventures of the X-Men Vol 1, Spider-Man Adventures Vol 1 and Adventures of Spider-Man Vol 1 because there are too many "continuity mistakes" in those series (especially in the Spider-Man series), so it's clear the reality in those books is not Earth-92131; also, in the Spider-Man series the notes say that the events of Spider-Man Adventures Vol 1 are the "backstory" of Adventures of Spider-Man Vol 1.

Ummmm nope.

There is no official standing. If you check there is no Earth-0 listed. Further, this connection is not even made on the Unofficial Appendix.. Which is not official per se, but the Handbooks draw from this.

This apparent statement from Jeff Christiansen (In the Earth-0 page) has no reference. What is your source for this statement? Also how does that statement connect the stories in the "Adventures of" titles and Galactus of Earth-616? Unless someone can give a specific reference to this statement then it's not valid. Furthermore, Just because Christiansen stated it, unless it's actually published in a Marvel book, it cannot be corroborated as canonical fact.

You cannot make sweeping statements without the facts to back them up. This supposition is based on crap research and assumptions.

We shouldn't even be using Earth-0 as a designation because it doesn't have an official standing. Sure it's listed in the Appendix, but until it pops up in a Handbook or some other story it is not cannon. Period.

We cannot assume that the universe that existed before Galactus is "Earth-0" because it hasn't been stated anywhere that this is true.

Even then, if you take a look at the bloody profile for Earth-0, it says right at the top that it's not an official designation and if you even take Christianson's apparent statement at face value it "is not a true designation. It is a reality designation for a reality from the previous multiverse"

Even if you were to argue that Galactus comes from "Earth-0" there is no hard evidence to connect the "Adventures of" to the same Galactus who ends up on Earth-616, except for a sweeping generalization of what is observed in a story.

That said, sorry kiddies, assigning Earth-0 to all these characters is not the right way to go about it.

If you're going to say there are too many differences in continuity in what has been seen in the animated cartoons designated to Earth-92131 and the "Adventures of" titles, you also better be going through the GLARING continuity issues of X-Men '92 as well. Because even though it is BASED on the original X-Men cartoon there are some glaring issues with how the original animated series ended and how that comic book presents itself. Which anyone can tell you if you bothered to watch the episode Graduation Day (The final episode of the series)

If you guys are going to insist that these "Adventure Of" tales take place in another universe, then Earth-0 is not the appropriate designation because we don't know what reality it was. A TRN would be more appropriate.

Furthermore, you're making quite a number of huge leaps assuming that the end result of these "Adventures of" stories resulted in the birth of the Earth-616 universe. If Secret Wars has taught us anything (especially with the Ultimate End flap that was endlessly debated on these forums) just because it LOOKS like Earth-616 does not mean it was Earth-616.

Yes, I have read, I see what the writers intended to do. !!But!! there is not a universe designation applied to this story (hardly any Marvel story in the 90s assigned reality designations to anything.) There is not a single shred of corroborated evidence in any Handbook published to date that states that this reality led to the creation of Earth-616, or that it is the same reality as the Galactus of Earth-616 previously inhabited.

Until there is something in writing, we cannot make this assumption.