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I've been wondering how different the Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum would be like if Mark Miller came back to write them and I've realised that they'd be much better than they were under Loeb because Miller knew these characters while Loeb didn't. In fact, War Heroes is what his Ultimates 3 would have been if he and Hitch sticked around at Marvel. Things would have been a lot different. We wouldn't have saw the incest, sex tape, all those crazy things Loeb wrote. Maybe Ultimatum wouldn't be that panned by fans and critics, or at least lesser heroes would have died. They'd focus more the political controversies of the modern world and be 13 issues long just like the last 2 Ultimates volumes. Loeb was the downfall of it all. Miller and Bendis had a better grasp on things, it was their baby after all. Loeb is just a hack, he just took the job at Marvel, but has no respect for the characters or history. He pretty much ruined Marvel's animation content as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/7s4hin/how_different_the_ultimates_3_and_ultimatum_would/ https://www.quora.com/If-Mark-Miller-came-back-for-the-Ultimates-3-and-Ultimatum-what-would-they-be-like 