Board Thread:Movies/@comment-5041674-20140508040330/@comment-14847494-20140510211806

Hawkeye2701 wrote: Heeha wrote: Yeah, but the thing is, Green Goblin didn't look good in the first franchise. He looked terrible. Utterly terrible. It has to fit in with the real world. It just didn't go well. He looks more like a robot than a villain. he shouldn't just worn a suit. The Amazing Spider-Man version looks more real, better, although it could be a tad more goblin-y.

I respectfully disagree. You're saying it has to fit with the real world and that the goblin here looked more real. To me, the problem with that is that goblins aren't real. To me, it's more realistic that a guy wears a stylized suit than has green skin and a smile that would make the Joker jealous.

And I'm not defending the first franchise on a lot of things, but while the first goblin's suit was dumb, the mask didn't actually bother me, it was mostly the entirely green bodysuit that didn't sit right with me, whereas the new goblin, shockingly I'm alright with the suit, but the transformation is just a massive bleh to me.

And again there's the straining of credulity. In the first franchise, Norman tested Oscorp's super soldier serum on himself because his shareholders were about to ruin him if there weren't positive human test results. This had the side effect of making him homicidal, but the first people he targets, are the ones who are ruining him whilst wearing a goofy mask to hide his identity and then targeting Spider-Man when he gets in the way.

In this franchise, Harry undergoes this change by genetically enhanced spider venom being pumped into his body (Just willingly injecting oneself with Spider venom alone being pretty nuts) which shouldn't have worked for him as it was coded to Richard Parker's DNA, it then seemingly reacts somehow with Harry's life threatening genetic condition, not killing him, but giving him similar enhanced power to Peter and turning him green with bad teeth and hair that defies gravity, after which, despite having everything he wants already sorted out, both cured of his fatal disease, people who wronged him dealt with by Electro, he then takes off personally to try and deal with Spidey despite having no confirmation that Electro failed even.

Amazing Spider-man so far is definitely the better franchise, but in my opinion, Willem Dafoe is simply the better and more understandable Goblin. Yes, goblins aren't evil, but Green Goblin isn't an actual goblin. Spider-Man isn't an actual spider. If you're filming it in the real world, than it look realistic. it needs to fit in with the rest of the universe. Here, it did. Whereas, the costume in "Spider-Man" looked like it came right out of a cartoon. Which would be fine, if this WAS a cartoon. But it's not. It's real life. Therefore, it should have a more realistic look. And to my knowledge, Green Goblin had a much bigger role in "Spider-Man" than he did in "The Amazing Spider-Man". Sure, Harry himself got a pretty big role in the film, but when it comes to Green Goblin, that was merely a rather short cameo.