Thread:Undoniel/@comment-4548390-20160819080939/@comment-4548390-20160820155523

Undoniel wrote: The Many-Angled One wrote: About some Minotaurs: though I didn't find some of the comic books needed to clarify some appearances of the Minotaur (yet), I discovered the Minotaur who appears in Marvel Year-In-Review 1992 isn't identified, he just make a cameo in the Bar with No Name. The Minotaur who appears on Olympus in just make a cameo there as well, appearing just for two panels before disappearing, so there's no identification of who he is there. I'll try to find the comic books needed this weekend (it's harder than I thought it would be). Like always, there is an (appendix) entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z (around 2008-10, the series I haven't in my possession. Maybe a few useful information exist in it ?

For the Bar with no Name Minotaur, no chance he might be a Zodiac, New Men, Ani-Men, etc. members ? Hopefully I'll find them this weekened so we can know for sure.

Undoniel wrote: The Many-Angled One wrote: About the Minotaurs page: what if we merge it to the Minotaur disambiguation page and mold it to something akin to the List of Living Mutants? I'm not sure the idea you have in mind but I agree with you for the concept. I had created something similar with Uni-Mind page in order to have both information and disambiguation while not creating an item or race page, but the result isn't up to my expectations (notably the summary who is not really good-looking nor helpful). We'll still have to work on some things about it, but my idea is to basically have all information about Minotaurs on this page in a similar fashion of the List of Living Mutants page.

Like, the main character section would be for Asterius, explaining a little about his history. Then there are the subsections, one of them being for Minotaur-like creatures. These sections would have a title, then the info, and the image and link to a character page.

Undoniel wrote: The Many-Angled One wrote: Nothing about Minotaurs, just A.I.s: is there any rule for the creation of a page for robots? Like, I've been merging the pages of all Doombots ever created here into one single item page because they aren't their own character, being more extensions of Doom than anything else, and I did the same thing with the Ultron Sentinels earlier. But there are a lot of pages about robots who have reality designations, so I wanted to know if it's okay or not.

Sentinels: Is there a reason for the Sentinels page being a race page rather than an item page? Those are tricky cases. I myself had created separate pages for Sentinels given they had very specific features and stories in many realities. Regarding the use of item or race, it's complicated given the fact we tend to state as races any animated being, especially given the fact some AI and robots are closer to "living" beings (autonomy, various affiliations), and the item template doesn't always serve the purpose of such characters. This subject should be brought before the staff for brainstorming. Just to justify why I changed the templates for the Doombots and Ultron Sentinels: I pointed out at their talk pages that both Doombots and Ultron Sentinels (mainly the Ultron Sentinels) are more extensions of someone else than their own being.

In the case of the Ultron Sentinels, like it was done with many other Ultron versions before, notably in Ultron Unlimited, they are "empty vessels" used by Ultron in order to his schedule. In other words, they are extensions of Ultron.

In the case of the Doombots, they were all programmed to think they are really Doctor Doom, just behaving like a Doombot if in the presence of Doom himself. In the stories they appear, they are always treated more like an item, being destroyed soon afterwards their reveal, and with so many empty pages created just for the sake of having pages of Doombots, I found it "easier" to have one page for all of them.

I treated both pages as if they were an Iron Man Armor that was replicated enough times to have an army of it, because that I decided to name the pages in the singular instead of in the plural.

Anyway, I agree we have to discuss more about this subject.