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Have they ever? The whole point of Marvel heroes are the fact that they have human flaws. These flaws occasionally have them doing less-than-heroic things. This has been a constant of the franchise since the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby days. The only difference between now and then is that the Comic Book Code Authority stifled anything that didn't have the heroes turn out to be squeaky clean all for the sake of "protecting the children".

It's also not realistic. Heroes ARE flawed. You just need to read the newspaper. Even the most heroic and altruistic person has problems, does bad things, breaks rules, fights with other good people. That's life.

You're looking for something that never really existed in Marvel Comics. At least not for any extended period of time. Here's a fun project for you: Read every Spider-Man comic from 1962 to present and count all the times that Spider-Man is at his most heroic only to have it call come crashing down and he does things that are less than heroic, or if he's vilified, or has to fight another hero, or considers breaking the law. The guy is a tortured mess. He's never been a pristine hero about always doing right. He tries but it doesn't always turn out that way.

Same with Iron Man, same with Cap, name an X-Man and you'll find someone who has been on either side of the fence. It's always been a thing.