Thread:Mrkermit/@comment-3406131-20160423231120/@comment-3406131-20160424095043

Mrkermit wrote: You have to add location to Citizenship module's countries section like this. Unfortunately piped links don't work so we have to use a pagename with a qualifier.

On a side note, I really would like you to revise your eagerness to have everything automated with templates. For example, Template:Nationality Category don't give us any benefits besides automated categorization to Category:Characters by Nationality and unified look to the message box. Links to location and hint how to autocategorize character within its template have to be edited through Lua module which is very difficult for most of our contributors and therefore counterproductive. That category template should be much simpler with manually added parameters. And if we decide to move Vanaheim (Nine Worlds) to Vanaheim (Ten Worlds), it will break the link again. I had a discussion a little while ago where links from templates seemed to be preferred over manually added. You can read more about my thoughts about this matter from there. The unified look seems important to me, given from where we're coming: The fact that things were added manually gave some kind of inconsistency.

On the other hand, I completely agree on the fact the Lua editing should be waaaaaaay less used (like "only if nothing else works"). That's why I tried to use stuff like, using the template and adding manually the part I want if the template doesn't treat it automatically instead. That's why the glitch is still bothering me, and having one or two links doesn't change anything.

To be noted that for some reason, (and that's why I had proposed that we wrote some kind of notice to help edit) I missed the fact the citizenship module had that impact on the nationality template, that will help me in the future. In this very case of Vanaheim, you did used the module, when I tried to have it done manually but using the template without modifications. That seems to be the better way to me: The user can use the template without modifying it, just add it to the page, and add a simple modification for it to work the way he wants it to.

Same way, using the race template bothers me, when we could (but I just checked, nothing after the "|" appears) just add something to the template on the category.

Mrkermit wrote: I also noticed that Module:Citizenship's valid and substitutes -sections, which were previously grouped to human and alien citizenships/races, are now mixed. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to group those to separate lists but now it's really confusing and should be separated again or listed to one group. Yep, I had troubled feelings about that separation (useful in some ways). Still haven't a definitive opinion on that. And I'm pretty sure I mixed some entries myself.