Board Thread:Policies/@comment-4548390-20170330210246/@comment-61022-20190601005354

For those not keeping track at home 1137 is referring to - (some friendly advice, 1137, never assume that everyone knows what you're talking about so it's always good to cite references to your opinions when making your case just so people know what you're talking about)

There is one flaw in your theory. It was never stated that the "past" that Hank went into was the past of Earth-616.

There are a few things to keep in mind here:


 * The first, and crucial thing to remember is the Sliding Timescale. came out in 2012 and  came out early this year. Based on the Sliding Timescale the Young X-Men were in the present for almost two years. That's a discernable difference considering where they were plucked from. Chronologically they were pulled from . This was the X-Men at their youngest. Iceman was what, at most sixteen years old at the time? I don't know how old you are 1137, but the human body goes through a lot of changes between ages 16 and 18. (roughly speaking)


 * Angel's wings are still a problem. Cable replaces them with Mimic's wings in . Well, the thing about Mimic's wings is that they aren't the product of mutant powers, they are a mimic thereof. As such, they would not register as mutant wings if they were examined afterward and trust me, Angel's wings were examined many times (particularly following the Fall of the Mutants event when they had to get amputated)


 * This is contrary to other instances where the past X-Men were pulled forward in time (XX Crossing and Unlimited Access, referenced above. Those X-Men had no physical changes done to them.


 * The other thing is the memories. When the young X-Men return to the past it is after their past selves left. They also arrive with all their memories of the future intact until Jean erases those memories. In the past instances where the past X-Men were pulled forward in time, their mind wipe happened in the present day BEFORE they were put into the past. It may not seem like a huge detail, but we're also talking about a world full of superhumans that could have detected the X-Men's return to their time period and snatched a glimps of the future before Jean had a chance to do a mind wipe.


 * Your premise also ignore the previously cited instances of and . That going into the past is what creates the divergence.

To put it another way, when present day Hank McCoy first went back in time in, his act of being in the past and interacting with the younger versions of the original X-Men is the point of divergence. You have original past (Earth-616) and the past where future Hank goes back in time.

When young Cable returns the young X-Men back to the past, it is more likely THEIR past (as in the divergent one created by future Hanks time travelling) as opposed to the past of Earth-616. It's a case of the genie being out of the bottle.

The other thing to also consider about young Cable is this: While he comes from a possible future of the young X-Men's timeline it is likely not have any connection to the possible future of Earth-616.

A perfect example of what I mean can be gleaned from the original Days of Future Past storyline. In, Kitty Pryde goes back in time to prevent the assassination of Robert Kelly. However, when Rachel Summers later goes back in time in -, she quickly realizes that the "past" that Kitty Pryde travelled to was not her own, but one of a parallel universe that was mostly the same.

It's kind of the same situation when you've got the Beast going back in time to bring the young X-Men into the future. In that scenario, he's the Rachel Summers of the scenario, but worse, because not only did he not end up in his own past, he also took these other X-Men to his own reality creating the whole catalyst for young Cable to appear.

Here's the last thing to consider:

If you were to accept that the young X-Men are from the past of Earth-616, you also have to consider young Cable. If he was concerned about preserving the Earth-616 timeline, he would not have gone to the present day and kill his older self. young Cable being in the present day negates his whole premise of "preserving the timeline" because young Cable is STILL in the present, jeopardizing his own timeline. This is because his olderself has been present on Earth-616 almost consistently since his first appearance in. The fact that his younger self is in the present day after EVERYTHING that older Cable did since New Mutants #86 puts his own future (and the past of Earth-616) at risk as well.

Whoever has been going and changing all of the All-New X-Men stuff to place the characters as being the Earth-616 versions is being really premature about it and that should all be changed back to the original TRNS.