Thread:Undoniel/@comment-32317643-20170928132120/@comment-32317643-20170929124353

Yes, I have no choice now. I try to help and this is how you repay me? I mean, udoniel come on. Your reliance on handbooks with contradictions and innacuracies along with your belief that there are none is the sole reasons this debate started. Yes in the guidebook it says Alejandra jones is bonded to Zarathos, but how can that be? In the comic she first appears in she was bonded to the spirit of vengeance that Johnny was bonded to after Adam retrieved it from him and bonded it to her. Zarathos and the spirits are two different things, Zarathos who, not only was already dead, but also non canon due to retcon didn't exsist anymore, so him being bonded to Alejandra is impossible. I checked one of those quotes that tries to justify this error in continuity and it's more than obvious that the guy writing it has no idea what he's talking about. Guidebooks are supposed to show straight facts, yet he was obviously pulling theories out of the air, he tries to say that Zarathos is a fallen angel, which of course is not true, and even uses the word assume in a book that's supposed to be about facts. Not only that, there is nothing in all of the ghost rider chronology to suggest that he is a fallen angel, making the theory moot. Now in your marvel zombies guidebook it says that Zarathos was around when the spirits of vengeance were created. Ok, then how come we never saw him? In ghost rider # 33, which details and shows the origins of the spirits of vengeance, Zarathos is never shown nor is he mentioned. And this issue is part of the story in which he was retconned. It was revealed when Johnny sold his soul to Mephisto in exchange for his stepfather's life, Roxanne discovered what he had done and prayed to god that Johnny be spared, her prayers were answered by the archangel Zadkiel who bonded a spirit of vengeance to Johnny saving him, but cursing all the same. Now in the original origin. Roxane was able to save Johnny when Mephisto came to collect Johnny's soul by using a book of magic and reciting a passage that forced Mephisto back to hell. Mephisto then bonded Johnny to the demon Zarathos. Now I already know what's going to happen. Your going to ignore everything I just said and starting your innacuracies guidebooks that I have already disproved, then I'll point out the innacuracies again and you'll dismiss what I said and so on and so forth. Your just not going to stop. The only way to make sure that any correct information is on wikia is to take it myself and replace all your innacuracies with canon facts from the comics.