Thread:Undoniel/@comment-5270921-20190224042313/@comment-4651179-20190226181901

I don't think the role of Kirby in Spider-Man's creation is comparable with Romita's in Wolverine's. While Kirby was involved in the design process, his ideas were scrapped and left unused. On the other hand, the way Romita designed Wolverine is the way the character appeared on the page. Tying this thread with something more on-topic: one argument I've read against Trimpe being credited is that all he did was to translate Romita's design into the page. He had no creative input in the character's conception, this being my personal determinant in deciding whether a person should be credited with a character's creation.

As for Larry Lieber, I would say his role is similar to Len Wein. He was in charge of fleshing out an idea (Iron Man in his case) into a proper character. While I don't know the parameters Marvel has used for giving creator credits, I believe Don Heck is probably credited with Iron Man's creation in big part because he's responsible for what Tony Stark looks like, since all Jack Kirby designed was the character's armor.

I'm frankly okay with the current state of the page and the compromise that Undoniel implemented, which is to list only Thomas, Wein and Romita, but it includes a "See notes" link to direct readers to the note I had added a few weeks ago about Thomas believing Trimpe was deserving of credit, while Trimpe himself didn't share that sentiment.