User blog comment:TheVision185/Mavel: Avengers or not?/@comment-16516632-20121111181600

Mister Fantastic and Invisible Woman briefly joined the Avengers a while ago. Thing is currently a member of the New Avengers and the Future Foundation. Human Torch has never been an Avenger.

Spider-Man, Power Man, White Tiger, Iron Fist, and Nova are not Ultimates. They are the stars of the worst superhero TV show ever. They never joined the Ultimates in the comics, White Tiger and Nova don;t even exist in the Ultimate universe (correct me if I'm wrong). They are not Ultimates.