Thread:Undoniel/@comment-30566352-20180315030053/@comment-3406131-20180315094403

Hi!

I'm glad you came to discuss the issue. That kind of issue often need people on the inside of the issue, as we can sometimes lack the knowledge about said subject (we had an issue with the content of trans and genderfluid categories, and I think a clean-up is necessary, if you are interested). I didn't know because in French, the term used is still close to "transvestites" (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travestissement)

By advance, I apologize if I write something "clumsy" about an issue.

I am unsure on the existence or non-existence of a category, although this position might change (especially given what remains after a first clean-up). Here how I see it:
 * The question of gender clothing apply only when the cross-dresser identify his clothing as fitting his goal of cross-dressing
 * The category would (as it does currently) only include "Characters who are used to wears clothes distinctively from the opposite gender, as part of their sexual identity, by social choice or pressure, and/or in a recreational goal." As it was already, trans woman who "dresses like men" without aiming cross-dressing are not included.
 * "Gender/Sexual minorities" is indeed a large category. It include all non-cis non-hetero categories, and should consequently be renamed (I can't find a name right now). The category apply because it englobe all gender or sexual stuff that "that diverge from the gender norms of society." (sic), but that merging of a lot of stuff can be kind of wrong.

I have removed most cross-dressers from the Golden Age, who were just criminals in disguise. I also removed all unclear/unreferenced cases. What remains is Jean Grey (Earth-311) (who disguise to be accepted as a male in society), Ms. Marvel (Earth-1610) (a phenotypical man in Ms. Marvel costume, not much known about it), and the most interesting case (as a look on how Marvel started depicting "non-norm" characters: Charles Villon (Earth-616), a Golden-Age character depicted with "gay mannerism", cross-dresser (as part of his identity or only for his clandestine activities?)

I changed the category to Category:Cross-Dressers for now, but the topic remains open to either tighten the scope of that category or even delete it completely. It is also possible to use the category to add links to information sites, in a way to inform the readers about said topics, rather than hide it.