Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-61022-20160330220251/@comment-4651179-20160401154902

Nausiated wrote: Putting Brevoort's comments into context: IF he said "Wolverine is really a frog that shoots confetti out of his butt" and that hasn't been stated in story or in a handbook, we're not going to go in and edit his profile because there is not a shred of evidence to support that in story.

That's not a sound argument, it's appealing to absurdity.

Also, if you read the finally party of Time Runs Out, Sue and the FF kids get swallowed up in the incursion. Then at the end the Sue that was "married to Doom" is the same one with Reed Richards at the end helping restructure the multiverse. Who isn't reading what correctly? It does not make ANY sense that this is just an alternate since every story framed it such that Sue was the one from 616. Jonathan Hickman seems to be pretty clear on this. It also doesn't make any logical sense that Doom brainwashed Johnny and Ben, Val, and Franklin yet took an alternate Sue as a wife? What an asinine position to have.

There's no evidence that proves the Sue von Doom and the Sue Richards from the end are the same person. And the fact that she remembers how everything was before Battleworld should mean something, specially when you consider the other inhabitants of Battleworld that had their memories tampered with don't remember there being anything but Battleworld.

In the end of Secret Wars #9, Sue Richards recalls that the last thing she remembered was the life raft breaking and thinking they were about to die. Why wouldn't she remember everything that happened in Battleworld?

And I thought it was fairly obvious that if Sue von Doom is an alternate, that means the other F4 characters in Battleworld are counterparts as well.

To conclude, I would like to add that the handbook is written by people that read certain events that happened in a comic and explain them in the form of text. I know the person who wrote the Iron Man update, and he's not an Iron Man editor or writer but a fan, and I even helped him with some stuff that he could've missed hadn't I lent my hand.

So, between the interpretation of a person that read the comic as an outsider like us, and the interpretation of the person that oversaw and worked with the writer of said comic, I will lean towards the one that didn't just read the events, but had a hand in making them happen.