Thread:Undoniel/@comment-24800939-20190910031427/@comment-3406131-20190910171320

Hi!

Well in your example, the only relevant root-category would be Category:Buri Family (related to Ymir or Gaea), as he is the forebearer of Njord and Bor.

I'm looking for the reference (I'm sure I've noted it somewhere), but most of those families could fall under "Imperial House of the Aesir", which could also be a replacement for part of Odinson and Laufeyson Family Tree). That would make sense for (maybe) Buri, Bor, Odin, Vili, Cul (those two last being only father+1 descendant).

Loki and Thor (and families) would need to remain pages and subcategories of multiple categories, as they're the offspring and adopted children of multiple families.
 * I'm unsure about Vidar (I don't recall if he belongs in the royal family, and if he doesn't, his own category should remain apart/a subcategory, but he doesn't have a lot of pages in it, so the interest is low).
 * Balder family was created because of Honir (Earth-616) (there is similar cases among gods and demons: characters related only to one other such as a cousin or the brother, thus making the ascendency unknown. Same for Arkin in Loki's family, such [sh/c]ould be for Pazuzu in Lilith family). They could added into the "parent" subcategory (and thus ending in the "root" category), by deciding if they are relevant to fall into (ex: should Honir be added to the royal house).

Sif & Heimdall category, as any Vanir family, could become a subcategory under the Vanir category, which a subcategory of Njord family. But I can't relate them to any other categories as their origin is vague, and unrelated to Freyr, Freyja or Njord.
 * What could be done here would be to transform Category:Frey Family into Category:Frey and Idunn Family to incorporate Idunn and her relatives. But Sif and Heimdall family would remain "alone."
 * I've been hesitant (but not opposed) to do as such (putting families categories under species categories, except for the likes of:
 * most of the Category:Kree Families (no relevant enough so far I think) and Category:Inhuman Families (a little bit more relevant, for the royal and famous families, but there must be a few there can be removed)
 * monsters (Angergoba is related to the Elder gods and her spawn with Loki spawned monsters and/or are related as a whole to elder monsters).

Hela category should remain a subcategory of Odin, Loki, as, regarding realities, it is the offspring of either or none. The other Lokispawn should remain subcategories as well, due to their relevancy as start of famous lineages.
 * I was thinking Hela's category could be removed as only Modi and Hela are part of it. But that Hela is not part of Loki or Odin's family. That's one of the exceptions. (I finally remembered that Karnilla had wedded Hela, so the category is up for 4 characters, and I would advocate that 616 could stay as well)

I think that's all for your example (as well as a few other families that seemed relevant to note as to be removed or at least checked).

As you can see, each category should be handled in various ways, regarding clarity, relevancy, interest of the category and number of pages in it.

An easy exemple would be: it's relevant to have the Elder Gods families as subcategories of the Demiurge family, as they are the parent categories for many more families (gods, monsters...). On the next level, Gaea, Chthon and Set's spawns' families should be subcategories as well (and not just part of their parent categories, as they're themselves the parent categories to many more stuff. The opposite logic would have us have Ymir, Loki, Thor, Fenris, the Storm Giants, the Frost Giants, the Nightgaunts...

In the same way, I don't see any way to have Sif & Heimdall under the same category, while I don't think it would be relevant for Hela. The others can more or less be regrouped, but I think at least (maybe only) Thor meet the relevancy aspect.

Hope I've been clear, and happy to discuss the matter if needed.