Thread:Undoniel/@comment-3406131-20150916145954/@comment-3406131-20150916173527

Nausiated wrote: I think whenever possible we should try to categorize sub-groups by their Binomial nomenclature (be it an official real-world scientific nomenclature, or a fictional one within the confines of Marvel publications) which is pretty easy to do with most offshoots of humanity, writers have basically gave these various races (Eternals, mutants, Inhumans, Deviants etc) the various nomenclature. It was said to me (notably for the Eternals) that "Homo immortalis" was too much trivia on its own, and needed the "common term" with it. That explains the names of those pages: Eternals (Homo immortalis), Deviants (Homo descendus), and Inhumans (Inhomo supremis)

Nausiated wrote: Alien races however don't seem to have those sorts of classifications (at least not presently). I think there was one instance of binomial name for alien, but really unsure.

Nausiated wrote: I regards to the groups of Inhumans who are classified as the Avians/Bird People and Centaurs... I don't think they are so much an offshoot species so much as they are specific groups. I'm not sure what aspect you're talking about. The centaurs and avians are in the same category regarding hereditary transfer of the Terrigenesis mutation. The Bird People seemed to me an offshot, like the Hidden Ones presented in Fantastic Four, both groups being a specific kind of Inhumans who ended up secluding from others. It will to be checked...

Nausiated wrote: Per the Kree engineered the Inhumans to take on the traits of alien races the Kree viewed as enemies (A good example of this are the race that looks exactly like Triton seen in ) so technically every single Inhuman could be classified as a sub-group. They are sub-groups because they seclude themselves, breed only into the same group and not with others, at the point they have a different genetic settings than the one of group. The limit between group and species in Marvel is often thin. Especially when the word "off-shot" is used everywhere, including in situations where it is not clear if they are talking about a group or a species.

Nausiated wrote: Ditto for specific types of mutants. In a lot of these cases when characters of similar character traits of a larger sub-class of humanity band together, they're more of a society. For the Dominant Species, it was seemingly that way. Husk theorized that powers-related band would form in. Same for most of the groups. But if Marvel says they are subspecies, we have to apply it. But as far, we have to stay on what appears on Marvel material: A mutant demon-looking isn't Neyaphem if not stated.

For the Neo, it's not that clear: They are stated to have specific traits (: they are stronger, faster, etc.).

Nausiated wrote: Which I'd say we could benefit from creating a society template and creating classifications of groups that are not teams, and not offshoots of a specific race, but are a separate society. (In which case, all the various pages I made for Native American tribes could be reclassified under this template, we could fit the Avians, Centaurs, the Witches of New Salem, the various societies of Atlanteans that operate outside of the rule of Atlantis.. Etc) into the proper category. A modification of the "organization" template ? I like the idea, but I think its use will be complicated. There is the problem of the articulation country/team/race/organization. The Avians are a society outside from Attilan, possibly a subspecies. The Natives are countries without land...

Nausiated wrote: As for alien races.... Perhaps we should come up with out own nomenclature? I mean Skrullian Eternals and what-have-you seems kind of clunky to me. But I'm sure we can apply the guidelines of zoological nomenclature we can probably come up with something that works.

Like for example we could break up the Skrulls as so:

Skrullius reptilius (baseline Skrulls, I ruse reptilius here from the Latined adjective for reptile since Skrulls are reptilian in nature)

Skrullius immortalus (Skrull Eternals)

Skrullius descendus (Skrull Deviants)

But that idea might not work so well some races (Kreeius? Kreeus? This makes my brain hurt) I have to disagree on this. That would be creating material, which is again the principle of the wikia. Previously, Eternals, Deviants and Inhumans were named "Homo aeternus", "Homo deviare" and "Homo inhumanus" without references. I prefer to stand on the more official thing we have.

Nausiated wrote: PS: The Skrull/Dire Wraith connection was explained in .. and not very well... Basically they broke off from the primary Skrull race centuries ago due to their practice of magic. They don't clearly explain if their biological differences are due to some sort of evolution, mutation, or mystical means. Thanks ! I will try to get my hands on that.