Thread:Undoniel/@comment-12714-20140131052230/@comment-3406131-20140204155804

For the Inhumans, there is two references of the creation of a new gene at the end of the process in Avengers Assemble 21, 22.INH and/or 23 (I've referenced one of them in the article Terrigenesis). I have to check back but the other ref could be about modifying the genes, but as an hypothesis.

I think you forget the definition of mutants here is to have the X-Gene. Without that, human or other aren't mutants. That's the tricky thing about that word: I've chased the curiosities and non-human mutants, and it is often (I think to remember) stated for those that they have mutated, and are now mutants.

A flagrant example of that problem was also here for Kaga: I listed him both as a mutant (he is one, born with mutated genes translated by development anomalies and mutation in his genetics), a mutate (because his genes were mutated in origin), but he maybe isn't as he doesn't have mutated himself, and a ionic character, because the origin of his mutation were the radiations on his mother (here again, unsure now if it fits). Here, I think removing mutate, because he is born this way, as an expression of his genes, not mutated. The mutants are born with a X-Gene active (changelings) or not. Concerning the changelings, it is tricky as they are already "mutated": Does that count as a mutation as it happens during the development. But for the others, it is a mutating process that modify them.

In my vision here how it works:
 * As a main definition: The mutates are everything who isn't explained by mutantcy (X-Gene or other mutant type), inhumanity (save the fact that the Terrigenesis is a mutagenic process), natural and trained abilities, as it is presented.
 * The trivia and technical detail that both Inhumans and Mutants are mutated by their power-acquiring processes. Here, the general case is: Every time someone is "mutated", he is a mutate. The Mutants are indeed born with a X-Gene, but it does mutate their bodies. In that case, are included most of the Spider-mutates, possibly the Goblins and Super-Soldiers, allegedly the magic-mutates (I don't care that much about magic characters of Marvel so I prefer let the case to someone else), the active mutants, the Inhumans went through Terrigenesis, the different kinds of radiation mutated (including the Warpies). Again in this case, I took as a basis the words "mutated", "mutation", "mutagenic". As an other way to say it, mutates is anything who gain their power by mutation.

I tend to want to have the mutates and Inhumans not labelled as mutates but not forgotten either, because people tend to say that "mutants are born with their powers". But they're just born with a specific gene, and gain their power due to the mutation.

Respond to PS: Yep. I tried to do as much as research on Mutants (divided in several pages) and Terrigenesis. I was hoping to have some new information source from Beast and Abigail Brand's son: The son of a overly-mutated mutant and of an alien/human mutant hybrid, without the hope I had to see if Beast or (less-likely) Brand gametes had been warped. There has never been a warpie who wasn't something else than a simple human as a basis to his mutation.

Also concerning the Inhumans, do you know if Beyonder's mutation is originated by a X-Gene ? I think to remember that the Inhumans were created from some of the Neanderthalians who were activated as Eternals by the Celestials, so it would be impossible.

In the same order, I am also waiting for a mutant/inhuman. That should be possible for sure. It would even be a factor or activation for the potential Inhuman descendants with X-Genes.