Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1820614-20150731024240/@comment-29354283-20150901023139

Seekquaze1 wrote: You are the only person I have ever talked to that applies atheism to a singular, divine creator of all existence and applying a very limited idea of divinity. Every other atheist I have talked to or source I have read about it applies to to either a singular God or multiple gods in general. A large part of the rest of your argument comes from that. I'm a Humanist. Essentially, I believe

-That there is no all-powerful being in charge of the universe

and

-a bunch of stuff about the agency of human beings that isn't relevant to this discussion.

"God" is subjective. We can do things now that would be considered magical to less technologically advanced cultures. The existence of cargo cults supports that. Seekquaze1 wrote:

And the Reed Richards/afterlife part, within the context I have always read it as he was arguing afterlives in general do not exist since he goes on to say all one does in one's present life is what matters. This an interpretation other people on other boards held when I have seen it discussed. And the presence of heaven/hell afterlives is well established in this case Richards is outright ignoring evidence.

Many religions are presented as more or less true barring a few inaccuracies. Take classical Greek religion, its gods are real, can hear and respond to prayers, and when you die you go to their afterlife. Chaos War even presented the Greek creation myth has real. Of course, several creations stories for the Marvel Universe have been presented as real. Atheism nowadays involves not believing in capital-G-God. He's all powerful and all-knowing. But most gods in Marvel aren't 100% immortal. The elder gods killed each other, Gorr went around killing gods. Aside from the OAA, we haven't seen anything close to capital-G-God. Seekquaze1 wrote: And yes, many atheists I have talked to over the years do denounce religion. Many, not all. Atheism doesn't have a holy book. Different people believe different things. Seekquaze1 wrote: Since we are talking on two entirely different wavelengths I don't see what else there is to discuss between the two of us. The reason I asked in the first place was I was wondering about the reasoning the writers might be using for their characterizations. It does not bother me, but I do wonder why your wrote a wall of text in response. There's nothing wrong with a wall of text when it's discussing something as complex as this. You've written your share in this thread.