User blog comment:ADour/The MARVEL UNIVERSE is ENDING!/@comment-160529-20150121235850/@comment-4651179-20150122025418

There doesn't need to be a bigger connection between Spider-Man and Venom than there was before. But that doesn't mean an origin in which they're connected is bad.

That they're "diluted" is completely arguable. First of all, I don't know why there's a need to mention that. Spider-Man and Venom don't have the same origin, and we're talking about a particular case. And even though if you were talking about it in the context of the entire Ultimate Universe, there's no other third party included in the connection between Spider-Man and Venom, it's only them two. For a universe with characters whose origins can be tracked back to a single source, you may want to check the Spectacular Spider-Man universe, where almost every villain was related to the Big Man. Did that make them less good villains? No. Because even after being turned into villains, and even after that, they were still their own individuals. On another side, we have the X-Men. An entire franchise with compelling characters that have the same origin, being born mutants. Are the characters in the X-Men franchise "diluted"? No.

Also, why is the origin worse for being on a similar "area" than other origins? Why is better that the symbiote came from SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE than being a failed experiment to cure cancer?

When it comes to other media, the origin of the symbiote is distilled. The symbiote from Earth-616 had the entire background of Secret Wars behind it. As it was pointed out in a review of Spider-Man 3, by stripping the symbiote of all its origin but the "from space" thing, it becomes pretty much lazy. "Spider-Man gets a new costume which comes from a random asteroid" is too simple. That's why I think the Ultimate Comics origin was better. As they couldn't translate the origin of the symbiote without making Secret Wars, they gave it a completely new origin that has a less complicate background (no space arena made by a godly entity to test humans), connection with Spider-Man (it was co-created by his father), and connection with the villain (it was co-created by his father).

The Ultimate Comics origin creates a better relationship between Spider-Man and Eddie, and not only because it's also a relationship between Peter and Eddie. By making the two characters already know each other, you make the conflict personal (at least The Spectacular Spider-Man took this aspect). In addition, Eddie doesn't hate Spider-Man just because he indirectly (emphasis in indirectly) ruined his career, Eddie now hates Peter because he saw him as a friend who ended up destroying the only legacy their parents had. In the Ultimate origin, Peter knows the actions of his consequences, knows he's facing a friend, and he is to blame (at least more than 616 Peter). With the original Venom, Spider-Man didn't know their relationship until Venom unmasked. And it wasn't followed by a "dun dun duuun." We needed an explanation of Brock's motives before being able to be shocked. And it ended up being a "well, so... That's it?"

Even if the symbiote could be alien because Spider-Man already has plenty of villains with terrestial origin... does it need to be alien? Isn't Spider-Man supposed to be this grounded street-level hero? An alien-originated villain is actually odd. You have: Scientist. Hunter. Scientist. Thug. Mutated thug. Scientist. Mob boss. Alien. For a hero with a rogues gallery conformed by mostly terrestial villains, one of alien origin feels odd.

Why can't Peter's parent be something else than a normal person? Him being a scientist even helped in some parts to Peter's origin in the Ultimate Universe, like the web-fluid formula having being created partially by him. That's better than Peter creating the web-fluid out of the blue overnight. If he's a CIA agent in Earth-616, there's no reason he can be something even more normal, a scientist.

Richard being a scientist doesn't undermine Peter at all. Why would his profession even affect Peter?