Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5977347-20130514030700/@comment-25758988-20150606111848

I totally agree with Cyclops! Unfortunately the other side have done several things worse then anything Cyclops has done. His real crime was killing Professor Xavier and that was not really his own fault, dam Phoenix Force. But on the other side of the coin you have Wolverine, Beast and Storm who between them have done things that should never be done. Yes Storm's crimes are minimal but I will get to her in a moment. Wolverine as expressed in the above posts has had a long long long history of killing, sometimes without a reason (and "they looked at me funny" is not a reason!) He insisted to Cyclops before the Schism not to put the mutant kids into battle, that they should just be kids. However he also insisted that both Jubilee and Kitty Pryde should become X-Men despite suggestions that they should be allowed to stay with kids their own age and not participate in battles. He also reformed X-Force despite the fact that Cyclops disbanded the team. This leads way into why I put Storm in here because she hated the fact Cyclops created X-Force but does not seem to mind the fact that Wolverine leads a X-Force team, in fact she and all the other teachers at the Jean Grey School openly try to pretend that does not happen. Beast is so arrogant that he believes because he is smart he can get away with things he should not be messing with. He creates a school with a Danger Room in every room in the school, he creates field trips down the stomach of Toad the janitor because he feels he wont mind and it's only toad. He experiments dangerous equipment on Doop because he is an alien and not a being on his level at all. He constantly berates Cyclops at every chance he gets, even before the split, so much so he felt the need to come back and scream in Cyclops face while he was carrying Nightcrawlers body. He also leaves Utopia and comes back and leaves again just to rub it in Cyclops face. He also agrees to got to Wolverine's school but first he had to call Cyclops and inform him he will be part of something amazing and that Cyclops had his chance. He also cockingly tells Abigal Brand that Wolverine is running a new school but it will be him who is actually running the school and Wolverine will just have the best office. Then we have the fact that Beast decides to break all laws of Space-Time when he brings back into the present the original five X-Men from a week after the X-Men were formed. Just so a young Cyclops according to Beast can see what he has lost along his way. However, why he felt he needed to bring the whole team I have no idea, oh wait a minute Beast was dying so bring past Beast into the future and he can help him recover. He brings Jean into the future and pushes her to learn her telepathy a year or so early, he also shows her his memories of how she dies, frequently. Then after he is saved by his past self, he informs Jean he was secretly in love with her as a teenager knowing that when they are sent back to their own time Professor X will read their minds and delete the memories of what they learned. So the whole point bringing them in to the present then? Cyclops won't remember any of this, so how will he know how to change his path? How will he remember what he loses? So it would have been pointless, oh wait he has healed from his deadly mutation that was killing him. Now it makes sense. Storm and Wolverine did at least disagree with what Beast has done and both want the X-Men to return to their time but the original kids don't want to leave. They want it to be their choice but these older X-Men do not want them to stay, in fact Storm sends out two teams of 12 older X-Men to recapture a escaped young Cyclops and a young Jean Grey. I also think, if you wanted to make a difference in your time machine, why not go back to a more realistic time? Like just before Scarlet Witch created the House of M reality, knock her out before she decimates almost every mutant on the planet. I mean is that not the reason Cyclops is doing what he is doing, protecting a dying species? This is the other side of the coin? I think Cyclops will always be right when he is against this team of hypocrites and idiots. Yes he is taking a more aggressive stance towards the protection of mutants but he is working against everybody. The police instantly want to shoot at a mutant kid who instinctively uses their new mutant power out of reflex. They arrested Christopher Muse (Triage) because he healed a woman who got hit by a car. They sent in SHIELD to take down Goldenballs and even the Avengers were sent to attack Cyclops who was trying to protect Tempus. The Avengers turn up later and express a little guilt over not helping mutants. If Hope was allowed to use the Phoenix at the beginning, the force would not split and not cause Cyclops to go over the edge. I mean the Phoenix Five were even bringing about a perfect Utopia. They were feeding the poor, fixing fault lines, bringing back extinct species, curing disease and stopping war. But the Avengers could not have that, they are the group of peace keepers and how dare anyone take that power away from them. I think if the Phoenix Five had been a group of Avengers they would not have a problem. The Avengers had to intercede and stop Hope so who created the Phoenix Five? It definitely was not Cyclops, Emma Frost, Namor, Colossus and Magik. Then they had to battle them with every Avenger they had on rota, including Beast (who prob took a lot of joy trying to kick Phoenix Cyclops ass). This caused the aggression in the five and caused Cyclops to take the Phoenix Force for himself. And we all know how that ended. Wolverine needed to keep his staff by his side but that did not work as Kitty took the original X-Men and crossed sides to be with older Cyclops's team. SHIELD needed to keep their mutant agent Dazzler by their side but she left and joined Cyclops's team. Abigal Brand hates Wolverine and therefore hates the school (Beast included?) and is still on Cyclops side. I will always be on Cyclops Side.