Thread:Undoniel/@comment-1618941-20140608113102/@comment-1618941-20140608201654

The Shi'ar Empire list in its subcategories the species that are under its rules as a general information. It is not a matter of exactitude, it is an info: They are species who are mainly under the rule of that Empire.

This is where we're not quite on the same page. Species is irrelevant to citizenship. Attempts to view species as a citizenship are actually partly responsible for putting the citizenship categories in their messy state.

For example, the current list accepts "Mephitisoids" as a citizenship. This is like saying, "We are citizens of humans." What it should be doing is is allowing mephitisoid characters from Tryl'sart to have either Tryl'sart or the Shi'ar Galaxy defining their citizenship.

Which is what I'm in the process of trying to tidy up now.

Here's another messy entry: Grogarr (Earth-616). Citizenship could be changed to "Ankaran," and since this insect is the only one there's no point in having a new category for it. If Category:Sligs is necessary for some reason, a single character is better off manually categorised on the article. But frankly a category with only one entry in it is pointless.

For the citizenship mess, that's exactly why we need to restore a better "AlienRace" field on the character template, to lighten both citizenship and origin: The AlienRace (move to "species" or "species/race/type") doesn't worked, so people started to add any species to it, and presumably started to think "Kree", "Shi'ar" or "Skrull" were citizenships (maybe others thought animals with no citizenships were citizeshiply described by their species?). So I intervened to change with "Kree Empire", etc. But character like Ms. Marvel prevented from adding "Kree" to auto-categorization with origin. So we really need to restore a species field, and there will a lot of work then. This I agree with totally.