Thread:Nausiated/@comment-3406131-20161122175750/@comment-61022-20161122181707

I haven't read the news SHIELD or Cap series yet, but you've piqued my curiosity enough to take a look (I need a break from all the old Hulk comics I've been reading of late)

So far you've got the basic ground work on lock from the looks of it. Naturally a lot of this stuff hasn't been fully fleshed out. I think mention of the fact that much of the Brotherhood of the Spear's history is lost to history, unknown, or a complete mystery. Identify that there are some connections to modern day Hydra, the Hand, and S.P.E.A.R. but the full extent is unknown and I think we got it nailed.

There certainly is a massive gap between 2620 BC and 116 AD, a lot could have happened here, but the only thing we really have to go with is that S.H.I.E.L.D. intelligence can trace back Hydra's origins to the Third Dynasty (Between 2686 BC and 2613 BC) so I think the reference is specifically talking about the battle between the Brotherhood and the Brood.

If I were to theorize, in those few thousand years, the Brotherhood of the Spear migrated to China. If you look back at the "original" origins of Hydra, Baron Strucker first attempted to form the group circa 1941 with no apparent influences. He just wanted to create an army of supplant the Nazis (That was in Wolverine: Origins, the specific issue numbers escape me for the moment). Later tellings (specifically the Uncanny X-Men story that is a flashback to Wolverine and Captain America fighting Hydra in Madripoor during World War II) tie the formation of Hydra in with the Hand.

My theory on this is that the Brotherhood of the Spear likely has connections with the Hand. Since both organizations were formed in the east, that's not a massive stretch. I think perhaps the Brotherhood didn't really get it's tentacles (pardon the pun) into Hydra until Strucker made that connection with the Hand.

What motivations there are, and the connections between the Brotherhood of the Shield and modern day S.H.I.E.L.D. appear to be so very very vague right now, so of course my speculations are just that. But I think the fact that all these organizations are inter-connected is certainly unquestionable.

I really hope Marvel gets around to publishing the last two issues of S.H.I.E.L.D. Vol 2 or at least start making good with the explanations.

As an aside, I was thumbing through the first issue of and noted that Isaac Newton is a featured character in that series. Since Newton was involved with the Brotherhood of the Shield, we should probably keep a close eye on that series to see if there are any nuggets of information that can be gleaned there.