Thread:Nausiated/@comment-32978104-20171031220110/@comment-61022-20171101070553

First of all, Marvel does not do retcons. They update stories vis-a-vie the Sliding Timescale or add to them, or tinker with facts so they do not become dated. While I agree that Byrne's original version of events is creepy, Reed meeting Sue when she was only 13 is still a fact. Brevoort updated the romance portion of their relationship. The issue at hand here is that there are numerous references to the fact that Reed first met Sue when she was 13 years old. Only Byrne's story makes mention of a romantic interest on any level.

That said, that sequence is still published and is still available for anyone who has a will to read it (it's available on Marvel Unlimited) We're a wiki. We're not in the business of printing opinions, we're about printing facts. The facts being that this was an event that happened.

We're not going to scrub something from this Wiki because it is not in line with modern sensibilities. It's why we don't scrub the blatant racism of the 30s and 40s, the sexism that was present until now, nor any of the other potentially offending material that Marvel has published in their 70 year history. We're stating the facts.

Also, to be clear, Marvel does not retcon. They expand upon previously established stories. If you want revisionist history, I recommend contributing to the DC Wiki.

Also, you're not interpreting the text correctly. I turn your attention to, page 14, which is where the "offending" material is found. This is a recollection made by Sue. The narrative is describing her perspective. To quote:

"she feels once again the unmistakable pangs of first love, a love that will burn true and sure through all the years that follow."

In context: It's Sue who was romantically interested in Reed. If you look at Reed in this panel he is clearly uncomfortable about a 12-year-old girl fawning over him.

At no point does it gives any indication that Reed was also romantically interested in her at that time.

There are numerous instances where it is stated that Reed started rooming with Sue's aunt while Sue was in her adolescence. Countless references to Sue having a crush on Reed. As someone who has read every Fantastic Four comic that has been published, I can tell you with certainty that there is no instance where Reed reciprocated those feelings until she was at least 19 years old.

You're entitled to your opinion, however, if you want to publish them here, you can do them on the forums and not in our articles.

So far as I'm concerned, the matter is closed.