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Sorry Spencerz, I had missed your "Tower of Shadows/Creatures on the Loose" message.

Spencerz wrote: After sitting through the entire run of Tower of Shadows/Creatures on the Loose, I've come to the conclusion that virtually nothing from the early anthology issues is canon, outside of hosts Digger and Headstone P. Gravely.

From what the stories and handbooks seem to suggest, those two tell spooky stories to nameless passersby inside Earth-616 canon, but there's no evidence any of the tales they tell are actual canon, or based on "fact" or "real life" (at least inside Earth-616). The only exceptions I'm finding in Tower are the first story in, and Story 2 in.

Creatures on the Loose is a bit more varied, especially as they did away with the one-off anthology style. Story 1 in is an early exception, and issues #30-37 feature an arc focused on Man-Wolf. For convenience, and given the H.P. Lovecraft stories (, 3rd story, and, 1st story). There is not much to confirm or infirm canonicity.

Spencerz wrote: Creatures also features two other short arcs in later issues: "Gullivar Jones", an Edgar Rice Burrows adaptation that ran from Creatures on the Loose #16-21, and Thongor, an adaptation of an original Conan-esque character from writer Lin Carter that ran in Creatures #22-29. I'm still unclear whether these fall into canon or not. Aside from brief bullet points in the Appendix master list, there's no mentions of the stories or characters that I can find outside of these issues. Thongor may be in the Conan handbook, which I do not own a copy of, but that's a stretch. These two may also end up being non-canon. I'm starting to work on Gullivar: The Appendix states that it could be canon. I'll see what we can do with it once it's completed.

I was working on Thongor: Aqquoonkagua and the Dragon Kings are canon by Marvel Zombies Handbook Vol 1 1. Consequently, it implies a lot of new material for Lemuria (which needs some work on the Pre-Cataclysmic Age) and Hyperborea: both those two lands and the modern Humans starting now before 500,000 years ago. My biggest issue to find a name, as Thongor's era (circa 500,000 years ago) is simply known as the Age of Men (following the Age of Dragons) or the Pleistocene (which isn't very precise), and the Pre-Cataclysmic Age only starts at about 100,000 years ago.

Spencerz wrote: Starr the Slayer. He had one anthology appearance in Chamber of Darkness Vol 1 4, and neither he or the other characters have appeared since. There is an alternate version of him in the Newuniversal series, and the character did appear in a 2009 limited series under the MAX imprint. But, there's no real indication that Starr is present in Earth-616, or if the MAX series is the same character. I recently recompleted the original appearance, but I can't get my hands on the newuniversal story. I will try to complete the Max series.