Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3085609-20130801181823/@comment-3085609-20130804090105

About being friendly, let me say you've been repeating the same points after I've addressed them and not acknowledging ANY of the points I made while I've addressed your arguments consistently. You can start paying me the same courtesy as I give you another chance.

A logo doesn't make an event. You're basically saying that an after-event status quo is an event if it has a logo. An event isn't a logo. An event is a main story involving several series or several feature characters. Make me the courtesy of defining what an event is for you.

You maintain that Marvel Now is an event because it's all about the aftermath of AvX. Except it is NOT. While a handful of series are about that aftermath, more than TWENTY of Marvel Now titles have NO RELATION to Marvel Now. Don't you think it's important? More than twenty Marvel Now titles have no relation whatsoever with AvX!! So your contention that Marvel Now is about the aftermath of AvX is demonstrably false. Some titles deal with it just as a few Marvel titles usually deal with the aftermatch of events. But that isn't what Marvel Now is about.

Now as an aside about the titles you include, I've said it already but you ignored it so here it is again (try to acknowledge these points) Tony Stark had his horizons widened in the first Avengers Assemble arc and made the decision to go into space at the end of his own title (not from AvX). The Phoenix is just the second arc, and isn't enough in itself to claim that the Iron Man title is about the aftermath of Marvel Now.

Avengers occurs after New Avengers and the decision to expand the team is not stated to be as a result of AvX but implied to be about what happens in New Avengers. I've just reread Avengers #1 to check, there is no mention to AvX but there is a flashback to Cap being expelled from the Illuminati in New Avengers, which means the incursions are the reason for Stark suggesting the Avengers go big. These are details however. But now get this: even if you are right about these few titles being consequences of AvX and sharing a sort of background, it still wouldn't make an event because of these two things: A. There isn't a main story, all these series have unconnected plots and do not even occur right after AvX B. (This is crucial) The VAST majority of Marvel Now is unrelated to AvX (Morbius, Young Avengers, Thunderbolts, Thor: God of Thunder, Thanos Rising, Nova --whose first arc happens before AvX--, GotG, Superior Spider-Man, Secret Avengers, Deadpool, Superior Foes of Spider-Man, Captain America, Red She-Hulk, JIM, Fantastic Four, FF, Avengers A.I., Avengers Arena, Fearless Defenders, Wolverine, Savage Wolverine--whose second arc occurs well before AvX--, Superior Spider-Man Team-Up) Marvel Now isn't just the handful of titles that follow conceptually from AvX or have some remote connection to it. You can't define what Marvel Now is based on a few titles that you handpick while ignoring the large majority of them.

You state that they included all these other titles for convenience. Don't you think that the reason they tried to connect Marvel Now to AvX was for convenience? In other words that Marvel Now was unrelated for the most to AvX but saying it was would encourage AvX readers to pick up Marvel Now. Marvel said Marvel Now was there to provide a fresh new start for readers. The inconvenience of a fresh new start is that it's also a potential departure point, hence the attempt to connect some titles to AvX. If you have read Jason Aaron's Hulk series you know that Hulk was part of a team and that Mark Waid's series follows conceptually from Aaron's run more than from AvX. The only titles that are true AvX aftermath are Uncanny Avengers, Cable and X-Force and Uncanny X-Men. The plots of Avengers, Hulk, Iron Man, Legacy are complete new directions for the characters. I've give you enough fodder to reassess your idea that Marvel Now is a continuation of AvX. Marvel stated they want fresh starts for their series and when you look at the whole line you should see that is their main purpose. I realize Marvel may have sent confusing mixed messages in their attempt to hold onto the AvX readers. But by tagging all these unrelated titles as an event, you're going to further confuse Marvel wikia readers. You can redefine yourself the entry for Marvel Now but it can't stay as is.