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Cyber-Shadow6 wrote: I'm a Humanist. Essentially, I believe -That there is no all-powerful being in charge of the universe and -a bunch of stuff about the agency of human beings that isn't relevant to this discussion.

Cyber-Shadow6 wrote: I'm a Humanist. Essentially, I believe -That there is no all-powerful being in charge of the universe and -a bunch of stuff about the agency of human beings that isn't relevant to this discussion. "God" is subjective. We can do things now that would be considered magical to less technologically advanced cultures. The existence of cargo cults supports that.

"God" is subjective. We can do things now that would be considered magical to less technologically advanced cultures. The existence of cargo cults supports that.

Thank you for clarifying your personal views on this.

Cyber-Shadow6 wrote: Atheism nowadays involves not believing in capital-G-God. He's all powerful and all-knowing. But most gods in Marvel aren't 100% immortal. The elder gods killed each other, Gorr went around killing gods. Aside from the OAA, we haven't seen anything close to capital-G-God.

I realize that since in real-life monotheism is the dominant form of theism on the planet at the moment. Polytheism is focused on less because in real-life because it is minor compared to monotheism yet the atheists I talk to do not believe in those gods either. I was focused on it because that is the type of god Hercules and Thor are. And in polytheism there is not always an all-powerful creator or divine source of everything in the universe, at least not in the same way as in the monotheistic religions. And while there is a "head god/goddess" they are rarely as all-powerful or absolutely untouchable by the rest of the gods. The gods are not completley immortal, perfect, or untouchable. So trying to say one is that one story or religion is the same as another it does not work for me. People now days may think that true divinity is absolute and untouchable and anything less is not, but this was not always the case. That is why I try to approach this from both view points.

Cyber-Shadow6 wrote: Many, not all. Atheism doesn't have a holy book. Different people believe different things.

Very true, which is why I try to avoid massive generalizations or assume I know what everyone who might be labeled under a category specifically thinks.

Cyber-Shadow6 wrote: There's nothing wrong with a wall of text when it's discussing something as complex as this. You've written your fair share of textwalls in this thread.

Agreed, Nausiated's lengthy response surprised me considering the apparent tone in the post.

Nausiated

I came here merely trying to better understand of the mindest of certain characters. I was not trying to convert anyone, create an obfuscation, or anything else. And yes, I have taken time to read all of your posts. You were the one who complained about my interest that is why you surprise me with you lengthy response. And for all your talk of an "organic point of view" you are the one who claimed to know wholly what all atheists think and claim to be able to simplify all religions down to one convenient story. And for your complaint about my lack of citing sources you are no better yourself. I was not presenting anything as absolute fact. You were and I was presenting contrary opinions I had encountered in real life.

Was my original post too verbose? Possibly, I was trying to explain the reasoning behind my question and was wondering if there was a reason beyond "artistic license." Some writers are good enough with characterization that the reader can understand the thought process behind it. Others writers scribble down whatever is convenient for the story. Sometimes I do not get the thought process and someone else does which was the reason for my original post.

I didn't respond in detail because from the very start you come off as having the type of superior attitude I find impossible to debate with. It is a waste of time I have engaged with others in the past on other subjects and gotten nowhere.