Thread:Wazzirving/@comment-61371-20120303161509/@comment-2051886-20120305024753

First, staying with the Nathaniel Richards idea, Iron Lad and Immortus are the only ones that we can compare to the Rachel/Mother Askani/Rachel Grey scenario. As you stated, the others are just different moments in the same persons life. Those two are actually two people that consciously decided to be different and continued different lives (although I thought that Immortus was an older Kang that decided to change his younger self). Although they began in the same origins, they eventually ended as different people. Rachel Grey and Mother Askani are both the continuation of Phoenix, but you don't want to recognize one as a "new character" because she shares the same past as the original? They both do. I agree that Mother Askani and Rachel Grey ARE and at the same time ARE NOT Phoenix, but then why give all of the same Nathaniel Richards a separate page, knowing they are the same person at a different point, and not a new character such as Rachel Grey? There is no reason that we can't have three Nathaniel Richards pages and just tell his story from the Kang/Rama-Tut/Scarlet Centurion point of view and then the Immortus and finally Iron Lad. His history is confusing, but so is Cable's. Chronologically, we first saw him as a young man, Traveler, then a baby, while he was running around as an old man, Cable, then he spent his childhood and the majority of his life in the distant future. We kept all that on one page and just told it from his chronological POV. Kang got six pages out of his past. I'm just asking for you to recognize one Rachel that isn't exactly the same as the original.

Next point, we have no need for the entire Age of X cast, only Revelation. She is the only separate being because she was created from the Astral projection of the real Rachel Grey showing-up at the wrong time. Everyone else was simply in that reality. No different than when the Avengers time travel or the journey to Asgard. Also, the same case for Age of Apocalypse Bishop. If they changed their names and/or think they were someone else, that grants a new page. Mother Askani IS another person. If she wished she could talk with the current Rachel Grey, something that none of the Age of X cast (except Revelation) could do. Bishop too, he could not talk to the Bishop operating in 616, because it was him. Those are, again, the exact same characters, with separate pages. Why can't we just put on their page that at one time, they went to the Age of Apocalypse or Age of X? Now, a character that split into, AT LEAST, tow different beings doesn't get a page? To keep it simple to understand, I think we should show the split, by noting that Mother Askani and Rachel Grey are two people that came from it.

By my "group", I mean the people I personally know that navigate this site for info, not the users I assume you were thinking I was talking about. The constants are a cousin Spencer, a friend Paul, and a co-worker Steve. I also have friends that simply drop-in from time to time, but all of them are impressed with the info I include and some actually ask for more.