Thread:Undoniel/@comment-1487274-20180320163736/@comment-3406131-20180702120253

AnnabellRice wrote: I simply disagree with the example at face value. Asgardia was hurled into the Sun, it's population is unquestionably zero, just like Attilan's current population is zero, so why should their infoboxes not be current?

What I mean is, if yesterday we were discussing potentially having to ban a user whose disagreement with mods was about listing former powers as current, then how is listing former populations as current any different than what was quite literally considered a bannable offense in the same 24-hour period? Indeed, I changed it to "Population=0 (last census before destuction) (see dedicated section on the page)". I kind of like the "last census" on Attilan's page because it's really close to the destruction, but that could be removed if it bother too much.

I don't think we should remove locale. I assume there are cases where no other field will fit.

So, my proposition would be:
 * Implement "Continent", "Region" (France for example), "District" (the US), "Prefecture" (Japan, but fit for department in France) (the more detailed the better) (but leave locale in case of)
 * Remove "Dimensions" (acreage) and replace it with "Dimension" (of the pocket variety)
 * Establish a guideline (that would be short) on "Population"
 * Add a Field2 to all localization fields (for mobile locations like Attilan or the Aerie and locations remaining while their localization change over time like Lemuria or the Cave of Dagon).
 * Implement "Capital city", "Demonym", "Religion", "Languages", "Governmen", "Currency" and maybe "Previous entities" (see down there)

I was checking the wikipedia infobox and a few fields could be interesting (and I think Wikipedia's infoboxes on many subjects are great)(my proposition are based on wikipedia+the marvel atlas):
 * Capital city (usually added in "points of interest" but could be in both). Marvel Atlas separates it from "places of interest".
 * Demonym: I sometimes see demonyms added into "Population", others used on pages without references, and when I myself find a referenced demonym, I sometimes put it in notes or trivia, but it doesn't really fit. That way the information would be clearly established in a place (and people would maybe add the right ones, or even complete it on pages).
 * Languages: Currently, they exist only as a developed sections or pages, I've done a few. Wikipedia and the atlas both lists them.
 * Religion. Currently, they exist only as a developed sections or pages, I've done a few.
 * Government: Wikipedia and the atlas both lists them. Currently, there is a section on the race template, but it is a general notes about it (like for population), but it doesn't serve the purpose for a country. Contrary to Wikipedia, I'm unsure about listing the current leader, but not opposed (side-noteI thought about creating a tableau listing the leader, their approximative dates, etc. I created an example with Aerie (Sky-Island)).
 * Currency: Wikipedia and the atlas both lists them.
 * Previous entities: Wikipedia lists them on not current states: List the previous geographico-political entities. Most Atlas mentions them in the history text.

On many cases (languages, religion, government, money in some cases), a link to the relevant page/section would be interesting. For example for Attilan, it would be " (see Languages in Attilan) " / (see Languages in Attilan).

I'm aware that all those aditional propositions are mostly for countries, but they could fit for some other types of locations, regarding each case (so we would not have to create a specific template).

Some might seems redundant with the history text or even dedicated sections like those I created for Cuba, Santo Marco, Symkaria or Mbangawi for example, but the purpose of the infobox is also to provide a clear recap about a country on characteristic points, what doesn't do a section in text (that's why Wikipedia has both has it).