User blog:Nausiated/Artistic License - Seriously look up what that means.

Or How to Stop Debating About Trivial Nonsense And Focus On What Matters

As a long standing contributor of this Wiki I have seen countless debates about how strong so-and-so is, who would win in a fight, or how powerful such-and-such a character is. At the end of the day I just wanted to say that I'm particularly sick of these endless debates. You are arguing over works of fiction.

Why is so-and-so able to lift something this heavy when his strength class is listed that?

I don't know, maybe because the person you're referring to is a work of fiction and isn't real.

This might come as a bit of a shock to some of you, but when it comes to fiction there are no rules. When your writing stories the sky is the limit. When a writer or an artist embellishes something or does something contrary it's something called "artistic license".

Wikipedia has a beautiful definition for it here. Even this very wiki covers the term here. Yet time and time again, we have people coming here and going on endlessly about these sorts of things.

Then there is the subject of omniscience, what a god is, how powerful someone in a cosmic level class is... Sparking endless debates about if the Living Tribunal is stronger than the Beyonder, or if the One-Above-All is god...

You're endlessly debating characters that are a personification of an abstract idea whose origins and motivations are never clear to begin with. You are also trying to measure beings that are infinite. Infinity is endless. You cannot quantify it. So stop trying. It was waste of energy.

How powerful is the Beyonder? As powerful as he needs to be. How can he do such-and-such a feat? Because that's what the story required. This is what artistic license is all about. What one writer decides to do can be instantly changed by another writer provided Marvel green lights the idea.

Can we just move on from this subject? These characters are not neatly defined. 30 years ago the Beyonder was a god that was the embodiment of an entire universe, 10 years ago he was a mutant/Inhuman hybrid, recently he was one of the creators of the multiverse. He's been a ball of light, and a guy with a Jeri curl. Tomorrow he could be a hotdog in a shoe box and six months later he could be a cat that shoots sadness from his butt-hole (you know, like all cats)

The point I am getting at here people is this: A lot of you on this Wiki focus FAR FAR too much time and effort on trying to quantify characters who cannot be quantified. Their very nature is to an abstract concept personified in order to create conflict. They are more of a conceptual process with human dynamics.

Instead of wasting time and energy on these endless debate that means literally nothing, how about focusing your time on writing something worthwhile? As I write these there are. There are. This is also not taking into account how many pages on this wiki are in dire need of updates or having missing information filled in.

Spending time writing pointless debates in our forums is accomplishing nothing. If you want to be a worthwhile member of our community contribute something of substance. Update missing information. Do the research. Yes, sometimes it's hard work, but it has its rewards.

If all you want to do is endlessly discuss trivial matters, perhaps find somewhere else to do it. Some of us are trying to work here.