Thread:Nausiated/@comment-4651179-20150223173949/@comment-26066818-20150223185912

First, Immortus was not responsible for four centuries but seven millennia, specifically identified as the seven millennia in which he lived from 3000 BC (as Rama-Tut) to 4000 AD (as Kang). Second, it's an odd presumption to assume Immortus actually traveled through time to steal his own corpse and plant it around the timestream in various situations instead of...well, faking it.

Even assuming for the sake of argument that Immortus actually died in TO #4 and that wasn't just another manipulation (making it either the fourth or fifth time I can count him faking death/incapacitation over the years), that death was undone by Avengers Forever #10. It can no longer be Immortus's fate to die in TO #4 when the Time Keepers killed him in AF #10.

When Immortus was reborn in AF #12, it was as a new being. The old Immortus was "born" when Rama-Tut journeyed into Limbo to become a temporal historian, and died in the far future in an encounter with Terminatrix, but neither of those events happened any more. Immortus died differently and was "born" differently in AF. Immortus has a new origin as a divergent spin-off of Kang (instead of as his inevitable future self), and there's no reason to assume this new Immortus is somehow bound to the same fated demise as his previous incarnation, a demise that was already overwritten when that incarnation died under different circumstances. And from a storytelling perspective, it doesn't seem like Busiek would spend 12 issues crafting a new destiny for Kang while leaving Immortus trapped with the same one. Both men (man) went forward from AF #12 unbound to past decisions and future shackles. That was basically the point.

So while there is only one Immortus, the 9999 AD future death was overwritten when Immortus's timeline was changed in Avenger Forever. The text of the article can discuss the details and possibilities, but the sidebars should be pure fact when possible. And since both the Handbooks and the comics indicate the notion that (A) it was a fake or (B) it no longer happened, I don't think the TO #4 "Death" should be presented on the sidebar where it will appear more cut-and-dry than it is.