Thread:Undoniel/@comment-4548390-20160928230141/@comment-3406131-20161001151630

The Many-Angled One wrote: Anyway, are we really certain about how we'll handle those Earth-0 characters? Because as it was explained by Al Ewing when he talked about the structure of the Marvelverse in an interview to Marvel.com, the sixth iteration of the Marvelverse was a place of Kirby science. The "Earth-0" that is claimed to have appeared in Adventures of the X-Men doesn't correspond to that. It was stated somewhere that the previous version of the universe that Galactus came from is this same Earth-0 or is that a presumption? On the Kirby science part, we don't know what it is and how it is expressed. That's more material on that reality, but currently, it doesn't change the deal.

ADour wrote: Wasn't it resolved in a discussion somewhere in the site that the Adventures of X-Men's "Earth-0" wasn't necessarily the previous incarnation of Earth-616?
 * There is only one "Earth-0" that we know (see arguments bellow), and following that discussion, it was considered Earth-616 (a choice I'm still not convinced is the right one), but it was indeed stated that it ("Earth-0", Galactus' origin universe) is not the previous incarnation of Earth-616 (explaining why I disagree with "Earth-0=Earth-616 choice, as long as the designation "Earth-616" isn't used to speak of Galactus' origin universe).
 * Jeff Christiansen stated: "Further, "Earth-0" is specifically in quotes as it is not a true designation. It is a reality designation for a reality from the previous multiverse.
 * Regardless of the designation of "Earth-0," it is not the predecessor of Earth-616. It is just the reality that brought about the end of the previous multiverse (via the M'Kraan destruction). After that, a new multiverse arose, of which Earth-616 is only one reality."


 * The link I have already provided a few times confirms it: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Data_Corrections_Fantastic_Four_2005
 * The correcter developed the part of the Galactus entry (who was reduced because too long in the first version) mentioning the Phoenix's, with the actions it performed during Adventures of the X-Men (the comics is explicitly mentioned, this is as good as having reality designations confirming the whole thing like asked Nausiated on the other discussion (same way Galactus' origin universe should be explicitly stated to be "the sixth iteration Earth-616" for me to convinced, and not "the sixth iteration of the universe", with "universe" used with many meanings)).


 * The argument of the alternate reality (used by Nausiated in the previous discussion as well, sorry Nausiated) is dismissed by:
 * The fact there is nothing stating it is true (so that doesn't mean it's wrong, but that doesn't mean it's true either)
 * The same link confirms my logic :
 * "There is nothing that actually states it to be an alternate reality, and there is no evidence that suggests that there was not an Earth in the previous universe." An Earth in a Kirby science universe, but still.
 * " People have argued that the statements about the Phoenix Force are from an alternate reality. That is one interpretation, certainly, but the official interpretation is that it is the reality that existed before the current multiverse."


 * Plus, as I already said, the Appendix lists:
 * "EARTH-0" (D'Spayre, Dweller-in-Darkness, Galactus, Taa) - reality that existed before the Big Bang
 * --Thor I#162
 * But D'Spayre and the Dweller-in-Darkness didn't appeared in Thor #162, but in the Adventures of the X-Men.

The corrected stated this regarding Adventures of the X-Men being canon (I presume it is in the "canon" meaning of "canon in the mainstream universe", because ): "Their intentions seem quite clear and there is no information to dispute this.", and the current events only bring material, but doesn't erase what was established before.