Thread:Nausiated/@comment-3406131-20161122175750

Hi!

I can't find back your original post on the origins of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra.

I've made little (but at least solid) progression on the Brotherhood of the Spear: User:Undoniel/Hydra_(Brotherhood_of_the_Spear)_(Earth-616), but we can confirm a relation between modern Hydra and ancient Brotherhood of the Spear from (don't know if you've read it yet).

We have to deal with it this way (especially considering who links the agency and the brotherhood): Both S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra have successive origins rather than a single one (and it seems to be the same for Hydra (Earth-199999), where Hydra has already two origins: SS offshot and ancient Inhuman cult)

Without considering the fact that the author ignored part of the story (they do that often):
 * The Brotherhood of the Shield was allegedly born after the alliance against the Brood in 2620 BC., which marks the end of the Second Dynasty of Egypt
 * Hydra traces back to the Third Dynasty of Egypt, so we can assume the fruit was rotten from the very beginning (hope they won't make En Sabah Nur responsible of it).
 * Zhang Hen is presented as the Spear in the East and a Brotherhood of the Shield master, but isn't part of either according to his entry. That was in 116AD (Chinese Han Dynasty)

Any progress from your side ? 