Board Thread:Administrative/@comment-1713281-20130730145643/@comment-3406131-20151201004254

Nausiated wrote: M-Day was a plot point that happened over a decade ago. Is it really relevant to have a category for something so specific especially with the ever changing evolution of characters? Well, it was more than a plot point, it affected the mutant universe for all this time, with a high part on the population: who is out, who is still in (M-Day+Decimation, plus many other events, but the first lists were then), the first new baby (Messiah Complex), who was dead but still a mutant (Necrosha, that's trivia, but categories is also trivia), the few new mutants (Second Coming, Gen X), etc. And it still affects characters.

The other solution would be to have a page listing them, but such pages are never updated. At least with this solution, everything is on the character's page.

Nausiated wrote: When they lost, got or regained their powers is all conjecture. If someone is interested in finding out when certain events happened they should be reading the character profile. We should be focusing more on having that information on the character in profile with a proper reference tag than dicking around with categories. Well, when I add categories, I try to always had referenced text with them. I don't add categories for people to skip the article, I add them to group related pages together.

And no, it's not conjecture on most cases (or else I wouldn't have categories for cases with a lack of information).

Nausiated wrote: If you're going to argue the "we need to be an encyclopedia of everything" angle, then why not add categories for characters who lost their powers BEFORE M-Day? Lots have between 1963 and 2005. There's even a story in 1999 where every mutant on Earth lost their powers for a entire story arc. Do we create categories for those depowerings as well? Yep, I read this one (wih the High Evolutionary ?), it's also a reason to question the way we did it. I had kept it in a corner as far, given it was a complete depoweration with short effect

Except for this one, depowered mutants before M-Day are included. Maybe not all but at least some.

The M-Day was a specific cause of massive depoweration with selective (or rather incomplete) but almost permanent effect.

Nausiated wrote: If you're going to differentiate one, you should differentiate the other, and if you're not going to put the time and effort into those older instances for whatever reasons, then perhaps a simpler approach is better called for. The depoweration by events has no interest in the High Evolutionary given both by the impact ("[name of the events] casualties" could represent the impact (and be a subcategory) if we have named Neo and mutants deceased then). Except if there was some specificity, some exception, basically it's all mutants existing a this time, depowered/repowered in a blink. It as its place in Depowered Mutants and other articles, but the categories also need relevancy.

Nausiated wrote: Two categories is easier to maintain than five+ Over-simplification doesn't do always good.

We can already remove the idea of "powered mutants". In the way we currently deal with them, mutants are either latent (which means "humans" or "latent mutants", given the information), active/activated (mutant category, including stuff like the Sixth Light (Earth-616)) or depowered.

I have to go, but to be short, the categories are not to be all taken down, but remodeled. I will think about it once the M-Pox story is expanded enough or ended (and this page List of Living Mutants will have to be completed and rethought too). What I'm sure: once it is ended, and except they go for a third mutant depoweration, and one every five to ten years, it will not be relevant to list every new mutant at some point. That's the thing with the activated/born/repowered mutants between M-Day and the Phoenix Death (need to find a name (in-comics) to this event because "AvX" isn't very in-universe): they were mutants in a world with almost no mutants and less new mutants. The other solution would be to take that down and create pages instead similar to List of Living Mutants but with the specific subjects.

But it's trivia on mutants. If we need to discuss it, let's do it on our walls, not here.