Thread:AnnabellRice/@comment-3406131-20170221105014/@comment-3406131-20170221131844

AnnabellRice wrote: I'm fine with there being further debate, I simply try to be thorough and catch every little tidbit I can when reading an issue, and I do my best to read everything new every week so that I can hopefully catch threads across storylines that might otherwise be overlooked. No problem with that, I had that problem when adding "mentions" (in fact invocations) for characters (especially in cases where the being -such as Ymir- was invoked, but never appeared in that reality).

AnnabellRice wrote: In terms of the mechanics, I can certainly make us another stylized template for that would autocategorize however we decide, though I'm not sure that's much different than the already existing template for an invocation. Also, you noted two kinds, but there's already at least four with the primary being, then there's for when it's written but not spoken,  for when it's not spoken aloud but included in either thoughts or narration, as well as the aforementioned. Oops, sorry, I should have been more attentive with that new policies: what I called is pretty much (or completely) the same as, if I understand it correctly.

AnnabellRice wrote: Lastly, the main problem with potentially recategorizing is, as you said, where do you draw the line? It's not the same as with Minor Appearances, where we can just say, "If it's specifically this, then it's major.", because there's going to be a mix of mentioned aloud, thought about, written down, referenced in narration, invoked, or exclaimed, etc., all with varying degrees of importants, and whether or not it's major or minor will be largely subjective and rarely definitive. Well, in those cases, the line is in fact pretty easy to draw between invoked stuff and all the others (who will be divided into the other categories you've mentioned).

For example, in 's mentions:
 * Maximus mentions Medusa and Black Bolt to Triton, about Triton trying to buy back into their good graces. It doesn't really add much to their pages, more to Triton, but it's part of the story. => Mentioned
 * Lineage says "Oh, God" while entering the mouth of the being where the Deep-Eggs are located. Yahveh has nothing to do with it, it brings nothing, it's just a popular invocation of people (believers or not) for some situations. => Invoked
 * Triton later say "For the love of Randac". Same here but for Inhumans: They often invoke Randac, Agon, without it being something really about the invoked characters (apart from proving they are somewhat important to their culture) => Invoked
 * Banyan mentions Kludge: It gives an information about Kludge (about being in relation with Banyan), who may (obviously/presumably) appears in the story

My understanding of an invocation (apart from magical stuff) is that it could be replaced by any other exclamation with no influence on the story and no information on anything: We could replace "God" by "shit", "Hell" by "fuck", "Odin" by "Santa" and "Randac" by "God". It's an expression, a saying.

(hope I'm not confusing stuff, because some French words might look like English ones but with different meanings...)