Board Thread:Movies/@comment-5041674-20140508040330/@comment-24713690-20140806015145

Heeha wrote: Cressenborne wrote: Realistic: "1. having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected. 2. representing things in a way that is accurate and true to life."

Honestly, I spent years studying film and TV, I know about realism at this point.

(Besides which, realism isn't necessarily better, it's just another aesthetic choice, among dozens of aesthetic choices that can be made. Saying it's better because it's realistic just says that you have an aesthetic preference).

And, with all due respect, no, it doesn't SEEM like I'm biased towards the Raimi film - I've openly admitted I'm more forgiving of it twice. And, no, I don't have to be equally forgiving of all films. The first Raimi Spider-Man film was one of the films that kicked off the current cycle of comic book movies, and it was the first live-action Spider-Man film. It was breaking new ground (digital comic book film / live action Spider-Man film). That can't be said of the ASM films - they've got a wealth of tradition behind them now - other people have made the mistakes for them, there should be a lot more expectation that they wont make aesthetic mistakes. Yeah, no, sorry. Just because another film makes mistakes, that doesn't mean this film is going to be completely devoid of those mistakes. There's no reason to be more giving of the Raimi film just because it came first. That means it get to more mistakes? That its' mistakes can just be forgiven but if the Webb film makes mistakes, then it can't be forgived? That it effects the quality when Raimi's mistakes don't effect the quality of his series? So, is ASM came first, does that mean, it would be able to make mistakes. Because honestly, you're making no sense. Fair enough, just let me know when you've bought the rights to my opinions, and I'll start caring about anything you say.

So, yeah, yeah. I get to be forgiving of what I want to be forgiving of. I get to expect Webb and co. to draw on the talent that's been nurtured before them if I want to. And, no, no film is devoid of mistakes - but there are different quantities and different scales of mistakes - and honestly, if Raimi's film has had scripting and realisation as poor as ASM2, then I might not be as forgiving, but it didn't, so that's just academic. If webb's film has been the first Spider-Man film I probably would be more forgiving, just being glad to see Spidey hit the big screen. And yes, the mistakes in Raimi's film affect the over all quality, just as those in Webb's - but as those mistakes were fewer and of a smaller degree, they affect the quality less.

Also, you don't really have a good enough grasp of the language you're trying to use to claim that someone else doesn't make sense.

At the end of the day, Defoe's Goblin mask sucked and DeHaan's goblin face sucked. Both we're weak points in their respective movies. At least Raimi's didn't suck against a back drop of a dozen mega-budget superhero films released in the past couple of years that had done villain design better.