Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-61022-20161123230137/@comment-4548390-20161124025828

Firstly, I never thought the Ultimate Universe was gone for good, on the contrary, it's just a matter of time until we see it restored again.

Secondly, why would he lie? Why would he try to manipulate Thor? For me, his reveal of the existence of another Mjolnir to Thor is nothing more than him trying to make up for what he did to Thor. In the few issues that he appeared in following that event, you can notice that he's changed, that he's not the same Fury he once was.

Thirdly, Fury isn't the Orb. Different people can deal with the same situation in different ways. Even the way they were affected by their transformation is different. Plus, he has nothing to master, he just see things, did you master your sight? Sure, the Watcher's sight isn't like ours, it seemingly involves cosmic awareness, but it can't be that different, you know? Vision isn't something to be mastered, you just need focus, and that's a thing Fury has (and a lot).

Fourthly, I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Ultimate Universe. He used the word "world" to describe the universes that died during Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, and again to talk about from where the hammer came. Yeah, Battleworld was destroyed, but the universe around it, its world, Battlerealm, wasn't, so it isn't dead.

Lastly, it's not just Fury who affirmed that the Ultimate Universe is dead. In, the Maker said that his reality is gone, and he's pretty reliable because he comes in slices.