Board Thread:Administrative/@comment-61022-20150818130902/@comment-61371-20150820002219

Undoniel wrote: GrnMarvl14 wrote: There's also the issue of Ultimate End. Clearly the 616 characters, at the least, aren't the actual 616 characters (Peter Parker's presence there and as one of the survivors, a living 616 Iron Man), or it's some sort of pre-incursion backup. But Eetmi's right. Best to wait for the Handbook before making a final call. Might shed some light, or prevent us from making a mistake. That's right, those 616 and 1610 characters seems to me to be merely Battleworld 616 and 1610 versions. Isn't Cyclops there as well ?

Knew I was forgetting someone. Yeah, there was a non-Phoenix Cyclops there (a still living one, too!). Plus, as I recalled after making that post, Iron Man's in his post-Siege armor ("Bleeding Edge", I believe it was called?), not his black/yellow armor or his JUST pre-Secret Wars white armor. Yet we have Falcon as Captain America. Maybe Miles appearing in the next issue will answer some questions.

Peteparker wrote: We need experts on each reality studying the reality and characters that appear in Secret Wars to discern if there are enough differences to be a separate universe. If there's any definitive (and cite-able) proof that the reality in secret wars is different, it's different. Otherwise, I believe the intent is to actually use the real alternate universe, sadly.

I really don't want my Supreme Power characters to be dead!

I hope you're wrong, honestly. Squadron Sinister killed off one of my favorite vague characters, Doctor Zero. Although, hey, someone remembered he existed!