Board Thread:Policies/@comment-4548390-20170330210246/@comment-1456680-20191007122639

I think everyone is overthinking this. It is very clearly spelled out in All-New X-Men Vol. 2 #19, pages 16-18: The original earth-616 X-Men never got time displaced like the TRN240 X-Men did.

Let me repeat that. The original earth-616 X-Men never went got time displaced like the TRN240 X-Men did.

I don't know what part of that some of you are not getting but let me spell it out for you: The Earth-616 X-Men never left their timeline so they cannot be the "All-New X-Men." That means that they're from two different universes. So no, the TRN240 X-Men are not from Earth-616. When 616-Beast did his time-travel shenanigans in All-New X-Men Vol. 1 #1 he thought he was bringing the original X-Men from Earth-616 to he present but what he actually did was create a universe (namely TRN240) that branches off from Earth-616 at the point of said time-travel. In other words, the TRN-240 universe is exactly the same as the Earth-616 universe up until the point that the TRN-240 X-Men vanish from their universe and are transported to the Earth-616 universe, where they now remain. The reason that they can't seem to go back to their past is that they (like some of you) mistakenly thought that they were from Earth-161's past. They clearly are not. It's even spelled out in a conversation between Cyclops and Beast on page 18; Quote:

(after returning from the past and seeing the original X-Men in action) Cyclops: "No, that wasn't home, that was somewhere else. If we're still there, that means... there has to be a different one. We can still go to our home. We can still..." Beast: "I'm afraid that was the only past this reality has, Scott.. we don't belong there.." Cyclops: "Then take us somewhere else." Beast: "And where exactly would that be, Scott?" Cyclops: "I don't know." beast: "Neither do I, my friend"

I don't know how much clearer that can be. Earth-616 is not the home of the "All-New X-Men" but TRN240 Beast doesn't know how to get back to where they're from becasue he doesn't know how to find it. So TRN240-Beast now knows he and the rest of the "original five" not from Earth-161 and he doesn't know how to get back to his own universe. Period.

As for how the TRN240 X-Men gained memories of their past selves, that is irrelevant. I really don't care anyways, it's totally besides the point.

So just to be clear, I vote that the TRN240 designation remains intact.'Italic text'