The fight clearly entails a neutral scenario, so Captain America wouldn't use Mjolnir because it's Thor's weapon, and because of that it's not at his immediate disposal at any given moment.
And like I mentioned five years ago, most of Captain America's means for disabling Iron Man's armor require direct contact with Tony, not to mention such items are not part of his regular repertoire. Iron Man has an advantage in ranged combat that Captain America lacks, not to mention he possesses defenses like force field shields. Iron Man could just fly 30 feet upwards and rain fire on Captain America. Of course I think Captain America can't win. The odds are 50-1 against him, and I think I'm being generous.
Well, Captain America can bring all sorts of weapons with him. And he can block all his attacks with hos shield. Nothing is getting through that shield. Cap can bring him down with rocket launchers. He would've no problem hitting him with his exoert marksmanship and increased intelligence. He can then bash his flight thrusters with his shield.
Also I'm talking about his worthy version. So yeah, given prep time he can bring mjolnir if he wants to.
Captain America's shield offers a limited range of protection since it's literally just an oversized dish, so it can't block all kinds of attacks. On the other hand, Iron Man's armor covers the entirety of his body, and on top of that he can create energy shields. Iron Man's armor also has magnetism, which is worth taking into account since Captain America's shield has sometimes been portrayed as magnetic. Even then, Iron Man could disarm Captain America through other means. Since the shield is also a weapon, all it takes is for Captain America to toss it for Iron Man to deflect it with a repulsor ray, given the reaction time of his armor. Captain America's shield also only protects him against targeted attacks. Iron Man's armor can deploy sonic attacks not unlike those he used against Captain America in Civil War #3, multi-vectorial repulsor rays like he used in Mighty Avengers #1 or multi-directional micro missles that Captain America can't protect himself against if they hit him simultaneously from different sides.
As for grenade launchers? Iron Man's armor can protect him against nuclear explosions, as shown in Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #32.
And again, I think it's silly to bring up a story-specific item like Mjolnir. But if you would like to, it's not like Tony doesn't have his own Thorbuster Armor which can repel the hammer. Can you really claim that Captain America can defeat Iron Man if you have to resort to such non-typical, conveniently-specific and lenient battle factors?
I'm saying given prep time, he can bring in mjolnir. They are allowed to bring any tool they want. Story-specific doesn't change the fact that it's canon and he is worthy. Also, Thorbuster didn't work against Thor. I doubt it will work against an already deadly super soldier that picked up mjolnir. Imagine if i pitted him against ultimate captain america.
Do you really believe that Captain America can block simultaneous multi-vectorial repulsor rays, electric discharges, simulatenous homing micro-missles, and attacks of the like that either don't hit a precise target or hit many at once? If the shield can't even protect the entirety of his body at once, how can it possibly protect him against a sonic discharge? Not to mention there's evidence of an attack like that taking out Captain America himself. It's not a hypothetical scenario. It actually happened, in Civil War #3.
It's also worth mentioning that the "seeing faster" is complete nonsense, not to mention the fact that Iron Man's repulsor rays have been noted to be too fast to react to even for a character with time-dilatation powers, thus increased reaction speed (in Iron Man Vol 5 #20).
Captain America's combat prowess is almost meaningless considering the Iron Man Armor can analyse his moves. Something that has, once again, have been established in the comics and proved to be effective, in Civil War #3. And what I poined out about EMPs is not partially incorrect. Tony's armor has been stated to be flat-out immune to EMPs, no buts.
Suggesting the use of prep time is really just an excuse to try to balance out the odds. And I don't really see why would you bring that up, considering the fact that having prep time would only help Tony since he's a genius that can think three steps ahead. Prep time would only give him enough time to think of any countermeasures against Steve asking Thor to have Mjolnir borrowed, which is a silly scenario. You're also overestimating the enhancements that Mjolnir would provide Captain America since in all instances he wielded it he's only been shown to gain the ability to control and summon lightning, not to mention the fact that Iron Man's armor does have countermeasures against electricity. Lightning is basically an EMP, and Tony is already protected against that.
Yes. Captain America's shield can withstand all attacks even sonic disruptions. As for the civil war event, he wasn't using his shield at that time. And as for the homing missiles, he can just dodge them. And no, comics canon is not nonsense. You don't know more than the writers bruh. Also, yeah your point about EMP is complete bullshit. IM is not immune to EMP blasts. Given a strong enough EMP blast, it can fry his electronics. The only time iron man countered an emp was when bucky used a weak one. Trying to ignore facts are we?
Funny that you mention lightning. Thor completely destroyed IM in civil war with lightning attacks. So no, he's not invulnerable to lightning. Also, a few hits from mjolnir would demolish his armor.
You're really being obtuse arguing that Captain America's shield could block a sonic assault. Yes, Vibranium absorbs sound, but sound waves propagate in all directions and are reflected and refracted by the medium, he wouldn't be able to just block it by holding up his shield. It's also silly to simply brush off the idea of homing missiles since Iron Man's targeting systems are capable of locking on extremely agile oponents like Nightcrawler or Dark Elves, not to mention the whole idea of homing missles is that they lock on a target. You're also ignoring other kinds of attack I mentioned, like an electric discharge or nerve agents. And assuming Captain America would be able to block the sonic assault, that would obviously leave him open to other kinds of attack.
The screencaps you posted do acknowledge that an EMP powerful enough could overpower any defenses, but the limits of Iron Man's EMP defense has never been established, not to mention we're talking about comic book logic here. You can't affirm what would be the limit that Tony's suit can withstand, or what power would Mjolnir need to cast.
The fact that you're resorting to trump cards like prep time or equipping Captain America with an item which is not part of his regular arsenal and has only used three times really illustrate one of the reasons I hate versus battles. It's an excuse to throw what is the equivalent of a "well, my character has a device to disable your character's anti-desintegrator ray shield that you tried to use against my character's desintegrator ray. He can also see in the dark and turn his fist into diamond."
You're not even a regular contributor to this site, so don't use this wiki to host personal images. Additionally, please avoid getting worked up and watch your language.
Due to the current state of this discussion, I'm going to put a lid on it. If you wish to do something else in this site other than necrothread a discussion from 2014, you're welcome to do so.
What do you think?