Thanks for the guidelines, but the reason I asked this question was Apocalypse took over Hulk as War to fight Juggernaut so he knows about the gem and yet he never goes after it and frequently gets his butt kicked by a group of boy scouts and their creepy bald caretaker. (That’s meant as a joke, but still pretty accurate description of the X-Men I’d say.) If I haven’t followed any of the guidelines I apologize, but I’ve read En Sabah Nuhr, Cyttorak, and Juggernaut’s pages and still couldn’t find a reason for it especially if he needs more power to fight off the celestials that he borrowed his tech from in the first place.

🤦‍♂️ Listen, the Guidelines are the rules of this site. They weren't referring to this post specifically. I just wanted you to read and follow them as I ask all the newcomers.

Oh, okay I understand now. Sry Sometimes my Aspergers makes me misunderstand people’s intentions. Also Salutations Lag it’s a pleasure to meet you, You can call me Jack.

Hi, I’m one of the people Lag tagged. I’m a discussions moderator and I also have Aspergers!

Yeah, I think Apocalypse having the Gem is overkill, especially since his own enhanced physiology allows him to basically do whatever he wants. 

I agree with Gen.

I suppose your right, just always felt like it was a wasted opportunity on En Sabah Nuhr’s part. ^-^ and pleasure to make your acquaintance Gen.

Go for it - put a hat on a hat, then cram another hat on top of that.

The scale is different, but spiritually it’s like the time that Red Hulk got the spirit of vengeance and the Venom symbiote.

It's like if Doctor Strange used Thor's hammer.

I think we need Pheonix empowered Apocalypse weilding the infinite gauntle combined with the crimson gem of Cytorak. All the while he reads from the Darkholme to utilise the Mykran crystal to aptly manipulate cosmic cube into bestowing him the power of the Odin force. Then, he will make will recruit Thanos as the horsemen of death, ghost rider as the horsement of pestilence, Galactus as the horsemen of famine, and Magus as the horsemen of war.

Then while he weilds Mjolnir, he'll pop his bone claws and cling to a wall with his new found spider powers. As he climbs the fabric of reality he'll inject himself with the ultimate Gamma formular to connect to the One Below all. Once he does that he'll marry the goblin force and eat the living tribunal for dinner.

On their honey moon, he'll hang out with the celestials and slay them all with Captain America's shield. The watchers will cry from a far and leave to a new dimension. The one above all will offer a round of applause and step down.

Then as Apocalypse sits on the internal thrown of the multiverse, he'll fight and be slain by the one true omnipotent force of the multiverse, Squirrel girl.

I mean yes an no technically apocalypse would be stronger but it would be really hard for him to stop jugs when he's moving as its said to be almost impossible.

but with how marvel is now it really just depends spidey was one of the first he didn't stop him from running powers why's he just made him run into wet cement an he sank an had to spend a month breaking himself out of it lol

Also another reason why jugs is awsome is cuz he doesn't need air to survive or food