Celestials

(Warning: Minor Spoilers for the recently finished Venom War)

This is the Feat I'm going to use to show how powerful Eganrac is

All-Blood the Necrospear wasn't able to pierce Eganrac, and Dylan Brock wasn't impressed, showing how irrelevant it's strength is. However, how strong is All-Blood the Necrospear?

If Knull died to All-Blood, what could Knull kill?

A Celestial, and who else was capable of this feat

Obviously Carnage, it would make sense. They have more common feats as well, for example

They both casually and effortlessly killed the Avengers together. But I rather want to focus on the Celestials here

It is stated that the Celestials' power are infinite to Kubik and Kosmos. But do you know who Kosmos is?

Kosmos is actually the fusion of Molecule Man and Beyonder, as they were equals and two halves of a cosmic cube. But now I want to show you how powerful the Beyonder is

Galactus claims the Beyonder is beyond the Multiverse and could fix his condition

When Doctor Doom had the Beyonder's powers, the minimum amount was solar system level.

Beyonder understanding he is too much for the Multiverse

The Beyonder's presence was enough to affect the Multiverse, and he didn't even realize it.

Within an emotional reaction the Beyonder destroyed the Multiverse

And Molecule Man, Beyonder's other half and equal, fixed that destruction, confirming he was destroying the Multiverse.

Beyonder's presence again was destroying his surroundings which included dimensions.

Upon a conflict between Molecule Man and the Beyonder, their power was felt around the Multiverse. If you think about this, since this all goes back to Kosmos, this is either the max strength limit she could achieve or you double it, because she is both of them together.

This attack was capable of destroying everything in it's path and reaching to the ends of Infinity.

Obviously says he is apparently more powerful than the entire Multiverse.

Although not a Beyonder feat, Molecule Man is the other half, and he was stated to be more powerful than the Cosmic Hierarchy, that he was the only one to stop the Beyonder.

And for you who is interested in dimensional scaling, while the Beyonder was in his mortal body, he claimed that his original form was infinity in comparison.

Now some important notes, I'm aware of some issues, including the fact that the Beyonder beaten the Celestials

But stated by Kubik

The Celestials were purposefully weaker, the Beyonder didn't face their true selves. But this doesn't mean the Beyonder's other feats are much weaker in comparison, can't they stay the same, while the other beings are just somehow much stronger than they seem.

However, going back to topic, there is another contradiction

Eganrac can still be pushed and flinch, and I got nothing to explain why or how, other than that maybe there are some things that can affect him, but his skin is just invulnerable, since it seems Meridius didn't do any actual damage.

So overall, I like to believe Carnage is infinite in power, while Eganrac is just got infinite durability, because you know, lack of screen time, therefore not enough proof to claim his actual strength limit.

But this does make sense to me in my opinion, when considering the relationship between the Celestials, the Beyonders, and the Kings in Black

As it was Carnage's mission to kill the Kings in Black

So to have a being designed to counter Carnage is like a repeating cycle with King in Black vs Uni-Power, or more like good vs evil embodied, and always will be more noticeable with the symbiotes.

Thanks for reading, but I want to request from you since you went through all of this, can you please debunk this for me? It feels odd, and I know it's wrong, but I don't know why.

Does this wiki have a Discord server?

Also, I think if the Celestials had a scientific name, it'd be "Cosmotitan celestia".

Only one will live on to exist forever, unchanged. Who will you choose?

Hello my Marvel family, it’s been awhile since I’ve posted. But this idea just came into my head yesterday. And I am curious to see what you would tell your favorite superhero. Give them a compliment, encouragement, or something else positive. I’d love to know what you guys would say!!

Choosing any existing MCU/MCM character past or present, canon or non canon, and choosing any genre, create a MCU Series or project to exist in the multiverse.

Since TOAA is in the marvel universe, but gwenpool is outside of the marvel universe and just came into it, so TOAA didn’t create her, does that technically mean gwenpool beats TOAA?

In terms of character I mean.

Who were those two celestials outside of omnipotencity when Thor and the gang busted out of Zeus’ court? What implications could they have towards the eternals or other phase 5 storylines?

With the war between Mutants and the Eternals underway, and the rise of a new Celestial do you think Apocalypse should or will play a part? We all know Apocalypse is connected to the Celestials, he was given the power to possibly shape the destiny of the Earth. Something he more then wanted to do from the start. Since them he has set out to conquer the planet, through bringing about wars and conflict, in which the strong would defeat and destroy the weak. X-Men Vol 2 185

Then he had a family on the island he came to call home, Okkara, but continued his quest to shape the world. who know how much past after he lost his family he found Ship, an actual Celestial tech made ship. Which he stole from fellow External, Saul, the at the time he did not know of their connection. He was originally look for Sual, a ruler, a feared immortal magician, whose magics were such that legions ran in fright but went for the Ship instead. Thoughts to Cable's blood, he was infected by the Techno-Organic Virus was able to intergrade himself more fully with the alien tech. X-Force Vol 1 37 and Cable & Deadpool Vol 1 26

Though wanting to get his family back and push those on Earth, mainly mutants, to become stronger so only the fittest will survive. Could this also be to survive and possibly survive the Celestials judgement? Or to help him fight them off when ever they come for payment of the gifs they gave him? Apocalypse has revealed his plans for mainly why he has been pushing mutants and those worthy to become more powerful. X-Factor Vol 1 68

With everything he has done, and everything he has continued to do since Krakoa started. Apocalypse is clearly not doing things out of the sudden goodness of his heart, but for himself and what he wants. So with Apocalypse having such a long history with Celestials, will he be a part of this Judgement Day event? Once over will he, with his family finally by his side and what's left of Arakko following him, make a play to rule. Or once this event is over, will he return as the next big bad everyone has to fight?

Yeah, I know it probably won't happen thanks to the current MCU Hulk but just imagine: The movie starts with Fury wandering in a bar looking for someone, and it turns out to be Logan cause he needs his help taking down the the Hulk because he’s lost control. Again it's unlikely, but I still think would be pretty fucking cool.