Phoenix Force (Earth-616)

Ok, this one’s a little different. Usually I pick a singular character or an identity used by a couple if characters. But for this, I’m doing every phoenix force host. Ever. So, on to the rules I guess:

1. It can be any Phoenix force host in any reality or medium.

2. It must be 5 designs. No more, no less.

3. It has to be an official design. No fanart.

Dark Phoenix vs Raven

Who Would Win in a battle to the Death?

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We know that The One Above All is basically the god in Marvel’s (also has a theory that e The One Above All, Presence and God (From Spawn) are the same god and who created the omniverse). Reason name one above all because he above all creation and creating other

primevals meaning that other gods, demons and cosmic beings. Also there is a theory that One Above All created the First Firmament. We know that Celestials were created by the First Firmament. Celestials are more powerful if not gods themselves. Odin ain’t that powerful against powerful beings like Galactus on a larger scale.

So questions remain? What is the caste system for these cosmic beings and gods? If The One Above All is above all creations and other gods, so who above who? Below are the demons like Hell-Lords (like Beelzebub, Hela, Mephisto, Satana and Hellstrom) who are still more powerful than Thor and Thanos, maybe Morlun. What between Heaven and Hell? Which primeval are strongest that closely can not defend but closely beat hell-Lords and One-Above-All. Is Chaos King, Knull, Gorr the God Butcher, Black Winter, Mad Titan, Warlock or then who? The Marvel Universe is larger than ever with many buried questions like beside God and the strongest demons, which pecking order from Demi-gods to beyond omega level begins.

Possible Caste System Order:

1. One-Above-All

2. Death

3. First Firmament

4. Chaos King

5. Council of Godheads

6. Shuma Gorath

7. Celestials

8. Phoenix Force

9. Adam Warlock

10. Black Winter

11. Knull

12. The Beyonder

13. TVA

14. The Other (Spider-Totems)

15. Eternals and Deviants

16. Inheritors

17. Ghost Rider

18. Hell-Lords

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Hey guys I know a lot of people dont ship a lot of characters for certain reasons but i just wanted to make this for fun but what if a child from the current Demiurge & PF host had a child? How powerful would you think the child would be? How would it look? Would the conception be a surrogate type situation since Demiurge likes hot dogs better than tacos u know, comment your opinions or thoughts!

Hey guys so lately something has been on my mind about the phoenix force and the children it supposedly had with certain characters. Like odin for thor and scott summers alternate daughter rachel summers and why are they are so depowered compared to the phoenix force themselves? Can anyone explain that? Obviously its how the writers make it but since there are changes already being made to certain characters that people already hate like thor being the phoenixs child in the first place. How and why have they not surpassed the phoenix yet?

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Hey y’all so i keep checking to see if there is any changes to thors page cuz last time i made a post about this, some people said it was a retcon of some sort so idk did they make it official that its true? Cuz if not why hasnt anyone changed it back yet lol?

Hey y’all so i understand the phoenix force is a cosmic entity that is capable of doing a lot on its own without of a host but I understand that wiccan aka demiurge is meant to be an Omnipotent being that (in the past) created the elder gods; one of them being Chthon whos Chaos magic can take on the phoenix itself sooo im curious as to think of wiccans potential being either above or maybe the same as the phoenix. Im curious to what you guys think so comment you’re opinion!

Hey guys so i know i had read previously somewhere that the phoenix force is ACTUALLY Thor Odinsons mother and if this is in anyway true, does this mean that he is anything like Rachel Summers? The actual and only other daughter born from the phoenix merged with jean instead of a clone or something. Cuz then it got me thinking about all of Jean greys kids and when Hope Summers was born they explained how scarlet witch and her powers are basically equivalent and balance out the phoenix forces powers in a way and so it also got me curious about Wanda Maximoffs kid Wiccan/Demiurge and how hes basically another force of his own like Rachel except he didnt lose his demiurge status like how in rachels case she somehow “Lost” her connection to the phoenix when i thought personally she was her OWN phoenix force but i guess not🤷‍♂️ And so what im trying to get at is does this mean thor will be his own force like the phoenix since hes half asgardian/cosmic mutant hybrid and since him and wiccan have a lot in common anyway like both being electricity manipulators and both powerful gods in their own right does this mean they are meant to represent the same balance we saw between wanda and hope? Or if not wouldnt it just be cool to think of a character that is born from both phoenix and demiurge😩👌 i know its a lil too OP but i think that’d be pretty cool lol

If the Phoenix has overpowered Galactus before and Max Power Scarlet Witch was shown to equal Phoenix in A V.S X, does that mean Wanda's more powerful than Galactus?

I personally think that they are gonna imitate the recent Thor retcon by making Frigga the first Phoenix host who was freed from it when Thor was a baby in Thor love and Thunder , Loki or GoTG vol 3

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Imagine if Franklin Richards had the Phoenix Force