I know Spider-Man 4 is still being planned to happen, and Zendaya is supposedly gonna be involved in the movie. But I keep hearing people say that they don't believe bringing MJ back into Peter's life is a terrible idea, but then why completely just ruin the whole ending to No Way Home? Like Peter had to sacrifice his memories with the people around him so his two best friends could go to college, and no longer be harmed by being friends with him because of Spider-Man. Bringing her automatically back into his life sounds terrible, I'd much rather they plant the seeds of the long awaited reunion between the two for the next couple of years and do it when the time is right. Plus I wanna see someone like Kate, Carlie or Ava be introduced into Tom's next trilogy, and finally thought we see someone new in Peter's life on the big screen.
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In the films following infinity war and endgame, Strange still wears the eye. But why? Without the time stone, it cannot manipulate time. Shouldn’t it be useless? Does he just think it looks cool or something, or is there some other reason for him to still wear it?
There are a plethora of Marvel movies now, with 28 in the MCU already. There's plenty of media too, like shows, comics, books, video games, etc. But not all, in fact I'd say none, are perfect specimens of the ideal Marvel fan object. So what about these could be changed?
I will ask you to answer these questions:
What can be changed (removed and replaced)?
What can be improved on?
What can be added?
What is already good?
What is something you wish they would've done with it?
WARNING: TODAY'S TOPIC DISCUSSION MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS.
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Today's example is a big one:
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Debate time!
Spider-Man: No Way Home Writer Responds to Peter Parker Memory Confusion.
In an interview with IGN during their Fan Fest, 2022 event, Spider-Man: No Way Home writers Erik Sommers and Chris McKenna were asked about a key plot hole presented by the film’s ending: what happened to the physical evidence of Peter Parker after Strange's memory loss spell?
McKenna states: "We talked about that a lot… and we can't divulge much, but just know we talked about it a lot and there were conversations about it. And I will say answering those questions by the end of the movie, felt like it would be almost too much to have to explain that, in this movie. So I would hope that it's one of those details that I feel would've been a bridge too far for us to have to explain in this movie. But we have thoughts and answers."
Sommers said that they “deliberated a lot,” but in the end, “it would just detract from the emotion of it” as the film came to a close:
"We deliberated a lot… is it going to be like a Back to the Future kind of thing? Or are people going to be disappearing from photos? Are physical objects going to be disappearing? All these things. And like Chris said, ultimately, we decided that it would take so much time and real estate in the movie to explain all of that. It would just detract from the emotion of it."
Do you guys agree with the writer's decision, or you would rather have the writing team explain the spell in further detail?
I don't even Know if this is Cringe or is it good so yeah without further ado let us begin the story.
[SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT SEEN THE ACTUAL FILM YET]
To Be Continued...
I'll be seeing it after I Eat something and get a haircut though, it is worth the wait.
I'll edit this when I finish watching the movie, see yall then.
Edit: Haven't seen it yet but I REALLY feel like I just saw Tobey Maguire with glasses on in a Black Tesla, Not sure though, but if it was I would be quite lucky and surprised.
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Edit 2: I've just left the theater happy as fuck. It was one big Epic Poggers Movie right there. Made me cry to see everyone just forget Spider-Man is Peter Parker and Forget Peter. Eddie done left some of him at the bar, he got himself a suit I actually approve. Got to see all the classics again. I still don't get why Aunt May was important other than stealing With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility right out of Uncle Ben's Mouth, and Dying. Some good (Mini) team-ups between Superhero and Supervillian, such as Norman and Peter. Loved the fact that they were surprised Tobey's webs came out of his wrist and wondered where else it would come out of... (I gotta puke, hold on! *PUKES WEBS*). I just loved the film ALOT, like.. more than I can say.
100/100. Would Watch Again.
Let's take a look at Gregory, notice anything familiar?
Ladies and Gentlemen Gregory is none other than
Guess Spidey is a no record orphan now.
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Doctor Strange's Scooby-doo quote was changed from the movie.
(Spoilers in the video and possibly in the replies of this post, but not in this post itself)
Was he being too harsh? Was he speaking facts?
In my personal opinion, he was being too harsh on this movie for no reason. Taking a jab at the previous MCU Spider-Man movies in a video about NWH makes no sense. What was done is done. Yeah, maybe Spider-Man was broken in the previous movies, but at least they fixed him in NWH. Maybe Marvel did acknowledge that Peter was Ironboy all this while, but why does it really matter? At least Peter is Spider-Man now, he is finally the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man we all know and love. I do agree with some of the points he brought up, like the reused footage and CGI, but imo there is literally no point in trashing the previous MCU Spidey movies in this particular video meant for NWH. Actually kinda clickbaity if you ask me.
I'm continuing this discussion from Talk:Spider-Man: No Way Home because the topic has become way too speculatory. But the thing is, we are creating five TRNs for the villains of Spider-Man: No Way Home under the assumption of them successfully coming back to normal lives. However, there are still things we need to consider:
We don't know what happened to the villains when they were sent back to their worlds. The movie only showed Earth-199999, so their arrival in their worlds has been left to interpretation.
Doctor Strange doesn't have the Time Stone anymore. And without it, he can't do any time-based magic. Peter has asked him to make it so Mysterio didn't reveal his identity, but Strange said he couldn't because he doesn't have the Time Stone. With that point being made, it's highly unlikely the villains' return had anything to do with time-travel, and so they are not variants. Just resurrected characters.
Peter doesn't fully understand Strange's magic, and the villains never experienced magic in their worlds because all the other Spider-Man movies are grounded sci-fi movies without any magic. It's very possible that Peter's plan to redeem them so that they don't die wouldn't work.
Electro already remembers when he was about to die. That practically confirms that he is dead. Even if he time-travelled to 2020's MCU and returned to his spot in 2014 as a cured man, it would be extremely difficult to dodge reappearing in the middle of an electrocution. If he came back and died anyway, according to Loki's rules he's not a variant.
Lizard and Sandman were still alive in their movies, so their living cured redeemed selves would not branch timelines. There's absolutely no reason to think Sandman has branched off from Tobey's world, and as someone pointed out with Conners' scales coming back, it is entirely possible Conners has reverted back into the Lizard and wants to turn the world reptillian again.
These TRNs mean the Raimi era villains were not from the same world as eachother or Peter 2, and Lizard & Electro did not live in the same world as Peter 3 or eachother. They are all mistaking each other for their Earth's characters. Meaning a bunch more Spider-Men are mentioned than intended. And the Mary Jane that Norman referenced would be a Mary Jane from Earth-TRN925, and Flint's daughter that he wants to get back to is Penny Marko of Earth-TRN927. You get how confusing that is to split all these villains' Earths? Peter 2 is mistaken for the Peter Parkers of Earth-TRN925, Earth-TRN926 and Earth-TRN927. Peter 3 is mistaken for the Spider-Man of Earth-TRN928 and Earth-TRN929. And Not to mention there is a dead Norman Osborn on Earth-TRN926 and Earth-TRN927, a dead Doc Ock on Earth-TRN927 and because Lizard and Electro know eachother, Max Dillon exists on Earth-TRN928 and Curt Conners exists on Earth-TRN929. We're lucky that the Spider-Men are treated as the same ones from their movies and not variants because that would be more characters like Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy to be assigned to someone's TRN.
With that, why exactly should these villains be given TRNs instead of being treated as the same characters from the Raimi and Webb films?
Me and my dad got free D-BOX tickets after I sat in some stickey stuff when we went to see endgame and I'm having trouble picking which movie I want to go see : Venom ltbc or SMNWH
So as many people mentioned Doctor Strange was acting weird in the Spider-Man: No Way Home trailer and many people are saying he is actually Mephisto though I think that is plausible I feel there is a chance that it is the Chameleon because there was a character in Spider-Man Far From Home that shared a last name with Kraven the Hunter possibly meaning that he is his brother and last time I checked Chameleon is Kraven’s brother so I think Doctor Strange is actually the Chameleon.
...Marvel did in the Infinity War trailer for the running scene. What do you think?
