So, the fourth and final issue of Ms. Marvel: The New Mutant ended with Kamala with no mutant powers. She still has her Inhuman stretchy powers, but apparently her Inhuman power cancelled out her mutant power. Was Marvel copping out because of the failure of The Marvels? What was the point of Ms. Marvel joining the X-Men if she's still just an Inhuman?
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I was sure I read the rules before posting. How did I not see that rule about the date? I was even making sure there weren't anything against necroposting before I posted. How did I miss #12? Okay, you can close this.
But all those other shows are totally irrelevant to this thread, aren't they?
This is a thread about Kamala being a mutant. What does your ranking of MCU shows have to do with it?
But Luna's not a mutant anymore. Her father's origin was retconned from being a mutant to being an experiment of the High Evolutionary.
And with the box office failure of The Marvels, I don't think it was even worth changing Kamala into a mutant to match the MCU. And I find it ridiculous that all these people who loved Ms. Marvel before now hates her for being a mutant. Inhumans were the replacement for mutants when Perlmutter didn't want to support Fox, so they had faced similar discrimination to mutants. So why are they even more angry at her for joining the X-Men?
Fant4stic was the worst adaptation of the Fantastic Four. To make them the Fantastic Four of the Amazing Spider-Man universe would be an insult. I am glad Fox decided not to make them a part of the X-Men universe, because the X-Men films don't need to be dragged further down by Fant4stic.
There's also a fanbase for stretchy characters. Deviantart has a lot of stretchy OC's, and there is an Elastic Character Wiki. Stretchy powers must be really popular if there's a wiki for that power and no wikis dedicated to superstrength or flight characters or any other classic superpower other than the Superpower Wiki that covers abilities in general. Most of the Sue Storm fanart were her as Ultra Woman instead of Invisible Woman. So cutting a power that is popular enough to get a wiki and used by most Deviantart OC's, that's a terrible idea. Sure, there are people who don't care about the power change, but the fandom of elastic characters have the right to be mad. The only stretchy female character to get into live-action and keep her powers was Rita Farr in Doom Patrol. The other live-action elastic characters were male.
Would be better if there was no apparent timeline alterations that made us split those pages in the first place and got us creating new pages for characters the villains mention when they are clearly recapping the original movies and so were talking about the same versions of those characters.
Or even better, how about instead of bringing villains from other universes, there could be a new take on Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, Lizard and Electro that work for an Oscorp that rivals Stark Industries. I really don't like how Norman confirmed that there was no Oscorp in the MCU.
And how much of her fanbase likes Kamala because she's stretchy? I know I am, and I sure wouldn't buy comics where she doesn't stretch. I gave up halfway through the Disney+ series and didn't watch the last three episodes until this wiki spoiled me about her being a mutant. I was hoping her mutant powers would be stretching, and when Brie Larson showed up at the end, I got excited because I thought she finally shapeshifted. But then analysts on YouTube had discovered that Kamala may have switched places with Carol, which the trailer for The Marvels confirmed.
The Temporary Reality Numbers which we use for placeholders for unnumbered realities are assigned in order. Our latest TRN is Earth-TRN1082, so the next universe to be assigned a TRN would be Earth-TRN1083. When Marvel confirms a reality number, the reality would be moved to the official number and the former TRN would serve as a redirect and won't be used again, so the next TRN is still going to be TRN1083 even if many other TRNs would be removed by then. And then TRN1084, TRN1085, TRN1086 and so on.
Well, the mutant thing sure isn't working out for Kamala in the MCU. Sure, the X-Men are more popular than the Inhumans, but if they are going to take away the stretchy powers and replace them with light constructs, that really isn't worth it. They could bring back Rubber Maid if they needed a stretchy member in the X-Men.
We don't even know if there was a timeline alteration. We never saw them arrive back in their universes. Norman, Otto and Max probably still died anyway if they went back to their time, making Peter's efforts all for nothing. And maybe those guys were really resurrected with no memory of dying and Peter was just making sure they don't get sent back to Hell or he worried that their world's Spider-Men would kill them again? I don't know, Tom Holland's Peter worked with Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield at the end, and Tobey stopped Tom from killing Green Goblin, so I don't think he would worry that those Spider-Men would ever want to kill the revived villains. And maybe Lizard doesn't remember anything after being cured because he had a similar condition to Hulk pre-Endgame and so doesn't remember what Conners did. Then again, if Conners transformed back into Lizard in prison before he was transported to the MCU, would he ask if he died after learning the other guys in Strange's basement were dead? The more I think about it, the more it seems that the villains really were taken from the timeline before they died, making them variants as Loki established, and so necessitated the split from the original pages and makes me even more angry at Strange for excusing his lack of a Time Stone to refuse to stop Mysterio.
Sure, the Ms. Marvel: Mutant Menace comic was just announced, but why didn't Kamala get her mutant power in her first mutant comic? Marvel is only turning Kamala into a mutant to tie in to The Marvels, but since The Marvels flopped and my reason for not going to see that movie was because Kamala's not the stretchy Inhuman, I think Marvel should let go of the idea of Kamala being a mutant. The comic series Ms. Marvel: The New Mutant just feels like a waste of time as a series teasing the idea of Kamala Khan being a mutant but not having her mutant power in the end. And if her mutation finally manifests in Mutant Menace, what Emma said about her mutation potentially replacing her Inhuman ability worries me. I would rather have Iman Vellani's Kamala Khan go through Terrigenesis in Ms. Marvel Season 2 than for the comics to change Kamala into the way the MCU ruined her.
Apparently, the MCU Doc Ock was a variant of the Raimiverse Ock who branched when he ended up in the MCU. At least, that was how this wiki interpreted No Way Home's bad writing. I was sure the villains were just resurrected and not time-travellers, but Lizard surviving his movie and not remembering anything afterwards really complicates things. And the whole plot about curing and redeeming the villains so that they don't die when they go back home does imply they were taken from their timelines right before their deaths. But, didn't Ock sacrifice himself to stop his own machine? He died redeemed in Spider-Man 2, so wouldn't he die the same way when he comes back from No Way Home? And Electro remembered when he was about to die. So if he was pulled into the MCU at the last second and then put back in that moment without his powers, he'd die even more gruesomely. The only dead villain who has a chance to survive his fate when he returns home would be Norman Osborn. Also, how did Doctor Strange bring these guys through time if he gave the Time Stone to Thanos and that was why he couldn't go back to stop Mysterio from revealing Peter's secret identity to the world? The introduction of America Chavez in Multiverse of Madness and her importance in her abilities to physically travel between realities while magic-users Strange and Wanda had to dreamwalk makes Strange's botched memory spell opening the multiverse for Spider-Man villains to cross over make even less sense. If there's a way to miscast a memory spell to displace people in other realities, shouldn't there be a way to use magic to travel between universes without needing a dimension-hopping girl? How did No Way Home become a success with all its problems?
Was Beast texting Blob who was pretending to be a girl?
We're all giants to them.
Well, She-Hulk already had a few fight scenes anyway, so trying to get out of a climatic fight to show that the series isn't that kind of show totally fails. She didn't erase the fight just to avoid fighting in her show. She erased the fight because she was tired of the cliche about heroes fighting villains with the same powers. I'm guessing the fight with her cousin and the two fights with Titania made those kinds of battles boring to her? She sure didn't like how Hulk and Titania showed up, which is why she had KEVIN erase them from the scene, and reverted Abomination to his human form.
Well, clearly I was still writing my long paragraph when you posted that it was a typo. I really need to stop typing long replies and use my writing energies for writing books.
And it doesn't make it much of a superhero show without fighting bad guys. And trying to make it that kind of exception to that genre doesn't work when She-Hulk had already fought Titania in this show.
You mean 4th wall break? What's a 3rd wall?
The fourth wall should not be used in a deus ex machina sort of way. Gwenpool may have thrown her enemies into the gutterspace, but that was an excellent use of the fourth wall in combat just like when Deadpool hit the opponent with his health bar and combo meter in Marvel vs. Capcom 3. What She-Hulk did was not a combative use of the fourth wall. She used it to run from the fight! And it wasn't funny. The action was paused by a long scene of She-Hulk walking through Marvel Studios and talking to people. And worst of all, she erased the big plot point that the whole season was leading up too! Even when Gwenpool used the fourth wall to time travel, she would never erase events from existence. Her fourth wall time travel had closed loops. You even see Gwen's future self sneaking around the panels before she decided to go back. And Cable was the time-traveller in Deadpool 2, so Deadpool wasn't using the fourth wall to change the past other than the more comedic moments like when he shot his Origins self, which had already became non-canon with Wolverine's time mission from Days of Future Past. You know what? Maybe I should actually watch Deadpool 2 before making this argument. But still, She-Hulk didn't even time travel. She just asked the creator to change stuff in her story so that she doesn't fight HulkKing. Maybe if she time-travelled to do that and kicked the vial of blood from Todd's hand to stop his transformation, she could actually have a case in court.
I also thought the AI algorithm might have insulted Kevin Feige.
I liked it. Until the ending where she cheated out of a fight with HulkKing and made K.E.V.I.N. rewrite the climax of the series. That was the worst kind of usage of the fourth wall. Really ruins all tensions when Jennifer can just ask a robotic Kevin Feige to erase the situation she was in. We know she could beat Todd more easily in a fight than in a court case. In fact, erasing HulkKing's transformation has made it even harder for Jennifer to sue him, because his worst crime of stealing Jennifer's blood never happened.