Hello, everyone. Since there's been quite a bit of news surrounding the Fantastic Four movie, I wanted to know what everyone's thoughts are about who should be the villain. I have some ideas of my own, but I want to see what you all think. Go nuts. Don't be afraid to pull some crazy villain out of your ass. That makes it even more fun.

The Peters of Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland are hiding in the statue of liberty while fighting Sandman from the Tobey Maguire movies, the Lizard from the Andrew Garfield movies and Electro from the Andrew Garfield movies

Andrew: what the hell is going on out there?! I kept yelling at you "Peter 2!" "Peter 2!"

Tobey: I thought you were Peter 2!

Andrew: What?! I'm not Peter 2!

Tom: Stop arguing both of you and listen to Peter 1! Listen we're not very good at this

Andrew: I know right?! I don't know how to work as a team

Tobey: Me neither

Tom: well I do! I don't want to brag but I was with the Avengers

Tobey: The Avengers?! That's great! And what is that?

Tom: wait you don't have the Avengers?

Andrew: Is that a band? Do you play in a band?

Tom: No. The Avengers are Earth's mightiest…

A storm sounds

Tobey: How is this helping?!

Tom: look it's not important! All you have to do is trust your tingles, coordinate your attacks and believe in yourselves

Tobey: right. So we choose 1 target

Tom: right

Andrew: and we defeat them 1 by 1

Tom: that's right! Now you got it! [He points at himself] Peter 1! [He points at Tobey] Peter 2!

Tobey: Peter 2

Tom points at Andrew

Tom: Peter 3!

Andrew: Peter 3

Tom: all right let's go

Andrew: wait! Wait! Wait! I love you guys

Tobey and Tom: thanks

Tom: all right let's do this

Tobey, Andrew and Tom jump off the statue, they swing around it, Tobey lands in the statue's head, Andrew lands on Tobey's left, Tom lands in the middle of Tobey and Andrew and they jump to attack, Sandman, the Lizard and Electro

Which one was your favorite movie.

#1: Is Mysterio the best Spider-Man villain?

I mean, let's face it. His plan was the only one that worked. He became the "world's greatest hero", and managed to screw up Peter's entire life in the biggest way possible. This has the mark of a hero's greatest villain to me. Plus his illusions were the best part of Far From Home.

#2: Should They Bring Surtur Back for More Movies?

I loved him in Ragnarok, which Ihappen to be watching right now. The comedic pacing with Thor in the beginning is on key, and he ended up becoming basically unstoppable by the end. With more attention he could be a good Thor villain. However, he could be dead, given he blew up Asgard. I would like to say he survived, but you never know.

#3: Would an Immortal Hulk Horror Film Make Sense?

Immortal Hulk was undoubtedly one of the best comic runs of recent years, and one of Al Ewing's best works. The concept was so well thought out, and was executed immaculately. Given the gore of the series and the "raised from the dead" zombie-esque quality gamma characters are given in that series, is it possible Immortal Hulk could work as a horror film in the MCU?

I never understood why. I honestly like his Spider-Man more than Tobey Maguire's. I still like Tom Holland's more but Andrew didn't really suck in my opinion

He was born on June 27, 1975. He's my 3rd favorite Spider-Man (behind Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield). Who’s yours?

Let me preface this by saying I liked Doctor Strange 2, the dialogue was incredibly mediocre and downright awful at times but salvaged by Sam Raimi's directorial style and performances. One thing I really enjoyed was the Illuminati, it was a great glimpse into the 838 timeline. I wish this team and universe had more attention, perhaps if DS2 was instead a miniseries with each episode exploring a new universe* in order to truly live up to its title. Two other characters I think would've really fit into this team from a narrative and worldbuilding perspective were Magneto and Hank Pym's Ant Man.

Magneto (once again played by Ian McKellen)'s inclusion would have set up several fun and interesting dynamics with both Professor X and Wanda Maximoff (who could be his daughter in the 838 universe). It would be interesting to see how Magneto reacts to his daughter's main universe variant, and 838 Wanda's killing spree while possessed by 616 Wanda. Perhaps a few extra scenes could expand on his relationship with his grandkids and Charles. On a side-note, In this scenario, I'd have liked to see Magneto in a white suit similar to the recent Krakoa saga to differentiate from his X-Men movies variant.

One massive missed opportunity in the MCU is that we never saw Hank Pym wear any version of his outfit from the old comics. We saw a glimpse of what his helmet may have looked like in Endgame but that's about it. Once again played by Michael Douglas, this variant of Ant-Man could very easily be tied to the creation of the Ultron defense league as he was in the comic version. It could also have been interesting to see him in as Yellowjacket, with him as Ant-Man in the flashback to Strange's death to imply that this experience was a factor in Hank falling to mental strain and adopting the Yellowjacket persona.

*One aspect I would've incorporated if this story had more time to breathe would have been to have the Dreamwalking spell somehow connected to the Sleepwalkers and Nightmare. Perhaps the noir dimension we got a glimpse of could also be explored potentially with a Spider-Man Noir cameo.

I love this movie, it's my favorite Spider-Man movie. Do you like this movie?

This movie was the only MCU Spider-Man movie that I enjoyed. Did you?

So after this, I realised that New Mutants was on Disney+, and having a cold I decided I’d rather waste an hour and a half of my life in favour of doing more productive things that I had to do.

My end verdict, overall: it’s fine. It’s a movie and I watched it. I definitely don’t care enough about it to watch it again, but I’m not angry at the movie or myself for deciding to watch it.

The acting was a little bit all over the place - mostly just sort of there with no abjectly terrible performances.

Illyana probably stood out the most because she was given the most to do (that wasn’t just looking pensive).

Now I’m going to just nitpick and criticise, so here we go in no particular order:

Coming back round to Illyana - her character and how they framed her was super inconsistent.

It’s implied that the smiling men from her nightmares appear monstrous because of memories distorted by trauma - they gloss over her strong hatred of humans (literally comes up toward the end reading from her file); they have what looks like tattoos you’d associate with Russian organised crime; Limbo isn’t a real place but something she made up?

But there’s no explicit realisation there, or her showing that she knows they were only men doing monstrous things instead of actual monsters.

How the hell did she “make up” Limbo? If she made it up why does she have to chant in Latin? I have mixed feelings about her using the Lockheed puppet as a crutch of sorts, but when the (incongruously cute) Lockheed showed up at the end it just raised so many more questions - it seemed to imply that it was the puppet come to life, so Illyana is a reality manipulator now?

Following on from this, the characters know Dani for all of two days and abruptly they’re all ready to die for her. Risking their lives to save her from her own powers no less. Some of that is consistent characterisation, Rahne was down bad for instance, so that’s fine. Illyana though, she spends the majority of the movie being antagonistic to Dani to the point of caricature, then does a 180 because it’s needed for the climax.

The “two bears” story that they bring up, I’m curious if it’s actually legitimate in any way or something fabricated for the narrative.

Every time it came up it made me remember the “two wolves” bit that floats around the internet, which again, I’m not sure whether it’s in any way legitimate.

The CGI has a sort of unfinished look to it, which tracks along with the fact that there were no reshoots to tidy up scenes or improve narrative flow - the movie was sort of abandoned.

I came across this as well:

So this follows on to a couple of points.

First, the Roberto whitewashing is an issue but not one that even occurred to me because, well, the comics pretty much got there first. Someone in the development stage would have been aware that he started out as black, but I don’t think this was ever going to be the movie to revert that change for the wider audience.

Second, I can understand that he wouldn’t have chosen to go with a horror movie to introduce the characters, but my issue was that they didn’t commit to it. There’s a sort of wishy washy horror aesthetic going on, but if they went all in on a creeping psychological dread I feel like it would have helped a lot. I know they would have wanted to keep the rating down, but I’m sure they could have snuck some mild body horror in for Rahne and possibly Roberto - highlight that mutations can be physically and mentally horrific to live with.

(Bonus third point there - the name misspelling is a fair indication of the care and attention this movie got in the final production stages.)

So overall, it’s just sort of there. Had the movie not been abandoned as far as post-production goes it would have been a better movie for sure, but a lot of what makes it a forgettable movie seems baked into how they approached the story and characters.

I would like to append a photo of this moment in the movie, which made me internally cringe so hard that I may have suffered lasting harm.

Since the director of “Thunderbolts” has been announced who do you think will be the main villain. My guesses are these guys down below on my list,

Kingpin

Arnim Zola

Power Broker

Knull

Justin Hammer

Not sure why this is controversial, the MCU's main universe is a cinematic adaptation of 616. The only "proof" of it being earth-199999 is a coffee table handbook from 2008, when the first and only MCU movie came out. It's not just an in-movie easter egg, In red carpet interviews for Doctor Strange 2 the actors and Kevin Feige refer to the MCU as earth-616. I feel the wiki should represent this. Side note would be to say that agent's of shield is a branch timeline/universe but that feels less important.

The question is, which of them, in your opinion, should not have been killed in the finale of the film, but left alive to appear in future films?