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About how names are used in this categorie characters... I think it is inconsistent... Every character has a Earth 61610 designation, which is correct. But then the other designation (Past, Prime, Ultimate) etc, it doesnt make any sense which one use it and which one doesn't...

For example, Ultimate Johnny Storm is the only Johnny Storm in the comic, there is no PRIME one, and he has a "(Ultimate)" designation all the same... Then you could say, that is for separating him from the Prime One just in case... but then Vision doesn't have a (Prime) designation in his name... and there is a Ultimate Vision in the ultimate universe (not in this comic, and we don't know if in this universe, but we could say the same with the Johnny case...). The same with Amadeus Cho... he has a (Ultimate) designation, and there is no "prime designation" one... Then I thought... well perhaps ultimate characters ALWAYS have that designation, and Prime is the default if there is not a desambiguation to be made... but then you have Tygra (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Greer_Grant_(Prime)_(Earth-61610)) who has a "Prime designation" and there is not a Tygra from Ultimate in these comics...

I don't know, I am trying to find some rules that make any sense, but for any rule I think, there are at least 2 or 3 characters that are not named by them... - Xelloss.nakama (talk) 19:56, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

In our naming conventions, the only reason for designation in parenthesis is disambiguation, to separate characters. I don't know these new comics so can't tell you is there a reason why we have named these characters as they are. I hope that somebody more educated on the matter could answer to that. —Mrkermit (talk) 23:09, March 12, 2017 (UTC)
Rather than create TRN for the unidentified realities involved in this domain, the qualifiers were chosen to indicate which of the source realities the character was in prior to the merger into what is designated Earth-61610. The only characters which do not have the aforementioned qualifier are those for which it was unclear which unidentified reality they were in prior to the disaster. -- Annabell (talk) 20:54, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
But for example http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_Brashear_(Earth-61610) is obvious he is from 616 (there is not an ultimate version of him), and he doesn't have a (prime) designation. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Blackagar_Boltagon_(Earth-61610) is obvious the 616 version, but he doesn't have a (Prime) designation either. The same with http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Naja_(Earth-61610). So not all characters have a secondary designation, and it seems aribitrary when they have and when they don't - Xelloss.nakama (talk)
The Prime characters has a (Prime) designation only if a Earth-1610 counterpart exist; for example, the 616 Vision and the 1610 Vision are not alternate counterparts, they only have the same name, so the Prime Vision in Ultimate End has been called simply Vision (Earth-61610); another example: since Adam Brashear exist only on Earth-616 and not on Earth-1610, the Ultimate End version is just Adam Brashear (Earth-61610). Understand? Duellante magic (talk) 18:49, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
oh, ok! ... but what about http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Triton_(Earth-61610)? there is an Ultimate Triton... or http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lockjaw_(Earth-61610) or http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Theodore_Sallis_(Earth-61610). Also I thought name convention was about names, no continuity, so Vision and Ultimate Vision, even if they are "not counterparts" they have the same name... Xelloss.nakama (talk) 18:55, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Wait, the examples that you have made are all about characters from New Attilan (Battleworld) or Monster Metropolis (Battleworld); those are a little different than the Kingdom of Manhattan; (however, if the Ultimate Vision appeared in Ultimate End, it would have been named Vision (Ultimate) (Earth-61610); since this didn't happen, we can keep Prime Vision as Vision (Earth-61610) with no problems) Duellante magic (talk) 19:16, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Also, there's no way to know for certain which reality the characters only seen in Inhumans: Attilan Rising and Mrs. Deadpool and the Howling Commandos originated from, as it's not like Ultimate End where they have unique speech bubbles to clarify, so they were all left qualifier free. -- Annabell (talk) 20:54, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Ok, but http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Greer_Grant_(Prime)_(Earth-61610) has a (prime) designation and there is no Greer Grant (Ultimate) (Earth-61610), why is she different from the Vision case?. And she is from Ultimate End comics! It is not I don't understand why the names in each case, but what I am saying is that is the rules for naming are not unified here :/ - Xelloss.nakama (talk) 21:30, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Oh, and if the inhumans are under (61610) designation, they are by definition part of the Kingdom of Manhattan, or else they wouldn't have a 61610 designation, but a 15513 designation (in case we are daying we don't know which universe they come from D:) Xelloss.nakama (talk) 21:34, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Marie Grant (Earth-1610) is the Tigra from Earth-1610; in this case, is the direct counterpart of Greer Grant (Earth-616) only with a different name. Duellante magic (talk) 21:38, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
When I say we don't know which universe the Monster Metropolis and New Attilan residents came from, I mean exclusively which of the two or more universes that melded into Earth-61610 within the Kingdom of Manhattan that weren't given TRN, not some other arbitrary external existence. -- Annabell (talk) 22:44, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
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