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This is the reality where Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer films took place.[1][2]



  • Official reality designation first revealed in Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z Volume 5 hardcover.
  • Based on a magazine cover Sue saw in a news agency, with advertised James Marsden's future superhero role and the Mystique' of Rebecca Romijin, it would appear that the X-Men are fictional characters in this universe, or at least that the films existed and were still made.
  • Following the Walt Disney Company's acquisition of 21st Century Fox and its assets, these Fantastic Four films (and the 2015 reboot) were re-categorized as "Marvel Legacy" movies on the streaming platform Disney+, to separate it from films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.[3]


  • A solo film for the Silver Surfer was planned, and even scripted, before the project was eventually abandoned. It was even more likely to be made than a third Fantastic Four film.
  • The late Don Payne (writer of Rise of the Silver Surfer, who would later go on to write Thor: The Dark World) mentioned that while he never discussed a sequel, he did have a love for the Inhumans, the Skrulls, the Puppet Master, Annihilus, and the Negative Zone.

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