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'''Limbo''' can refer to potentially multiple fictional dimensions in the Marvel Comics Multiverse. In no particular order, the first Limbo is a magical dimension of demons which were historically ruled by [[Belasco]] and was primarily featured in [[X-Men]] comics. The second Limbo is a place outside of time historically ruled by [[Immortus]] and the location to which [[Rom|Rom the Spaceknight]] banished the [[Dire Wraiths]].

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| New Header1_1 = [[Limbo (Battleworld)|Battleworld]]; Limbo (Battleworld) from Inferno Vol 1 3.jpg

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Each Limbo shares some characteristics. None are explicitly intended to be the Catholic Limbo, but each is a sort of "pocket universe", whose physical and temporal scope are extremely limited compared to the universe that ordinary human beings inhabit. To those within each, it appears roughly analogous to a planet, with a solid surface at one earth gravity and a sky devoid of stars.

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| New Header1_3 = [[Limbo (Kang)|Kang's Limbo]]; Limbo (Kang) from Spider-Boy Team-Up Vol 1 1 001.jpg

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| New Header1_4 = [[Limbo (Realm Between)|Realm Between]]; Realm Between from Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 398 001.png

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== Demonic Limbo ==

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| New Header1_5 = [[Limbo (Temporal)|Temporal Limbo]]; Labyrinth of Limbo 001.jpg

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This Limbo is also referred to as '''Otherplace'''. (It has sometimes been erroneously called '''Otherworld'''; however, in the Marvel Universe, ''Otherworld'' is actually the home dimension of the beings who empower and oversee the [[Captain Britain Corps]], and should not be confused with '''Other-Earth''', homeworld of [[Kang the Conqueror]].) Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.

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It has an ecology composed primarily of [[Demons|demons]] of various sizes, strengths, and intellects. It is said that its ether is much thinner than that of the normal universe, allowing for a greater spectrum of magical powers and effects. All demons within it are magical creatures that possess spell making abilities to a greater or lesser degree.

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Although Otherplace has a linear history, time within it is not rigid. Many points in its past and future are connected through naturally occurring temporal rifts, and its present is relative to the individual. Its history can be changed by travel through these rifts, but for some reason this is rare.

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Limbo is traditionally ruled by a Supreme Sorcerer, either a demonic native or an entity from another universe, often Earth's. Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler. It can take the form of an otherworldly paradise, or a rocky, sulfurous perdition. The demons of Limbo traditionally display an attitude of slavish loyalty to its sovereign, and act as his or her servants. They will even assume forms mandated by the sorcerer if he or she is sufficiently powerful. However, the longer Limbo's ruler spends away from the dimension, the weaker that individual's mystical thrall over it becomes, and the more autonomously the demons begin to act. Left to their own devices they will plot to betray and conquer whomever holds the highest position. They will also attempt to invade other realities if not held in check.

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Otherplace generally has a morally and spiritually corrupting influence over its denizens. If human, a resident of the realm will slowly metamorphose into a demonic entity. This change enhances the magical powers of the individual at the cost of their soul. Persons of great moral courage and wisdom can stave off the change for decades, but it is considered inevitable. The transformation usually progresses in stages initiated by the evil acts Limbo demands for survival. Magic in limbo is fundamentally neutral. It is the social and political climate that leads to this process.

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The reality of Limbo is generated by a single deposit of a magical metal called [[promethium]]. In Limbo it takes the form of a giant animal heart, hidden in a cavern deep below its surface. Removal of the promethium to another dimension will cause Limbo to vanish. The heart of Limbo was once sought by the supervillain [[Doctor Doom]] as an inexhaustible energy source for his nation of [[Latveria]].

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=== Rulers of Otherplace ===

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The complete timeline of Limbo is unknown, but it has had several reigning sorcerers during its history with the Marvel Universe. These include:

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* '''[[Belasco]]''': Commonly referred to as ''The Demon Belasco'', he was primarily human in appearance, and may have been human once. Though wicked as any demon, Belasco lacked the savagery common to Limbo natives.

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* '''[[Magik|Illyana Rasputin]]''': Also known as ''Magik'', Rasputin was abducted by Belasco as a child and was raised in Limbo. Belasco employed her as an apprentice, and was eventually overthrown by her. In time her mutant power of [[teleportation]] emerged, allowing her to leave, although she remained Limbo's ruler in absentia.

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* '''[[S'ym]]''' & '''[[N'Astirh]]''': Native demons of Limbo, this pair exhibited qualities far exceeding Limbo's average. S'ym was the most physically potent native of Limbo, while N'Astirh was a powerful sorcerer. They were right-hand servants of Belasco and then Magik. They jointly seized power when Magik's hold weakened sufficiently due to her prolonged absence, then they tricked her into opening a permanent portal from Earth to Limbo. Their subsequent invasion caused the "[[Inferno (Event)|Inferno]]" crossover. N'Astirh was killed when their invasion was repelled, leaving S'ym the sole ruler, but without the Soulsword to strengthen his throne.

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* '''[[Doctor Doom]]''': Conquered Limbo during his attempt to claim its precious [[promethium]]

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* '''[[Darkoth]]''': Wrested the [[Soulsword]] from Doom and slew S'ym. Assumed rulership of Limbo and wardenship of Soulsword. End of his rulership is unknown, but Soulsword was next seen back in [[Kitty Pryde]]'s possession.

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* '''[[Margali Szardos]]''': Usurped the [[Soulsword]] from Kitty and used it to kill those ahead of her on the 'Winding Way'. She then took over Limbo

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* '''[[Amanda Sefton]]''': Assumed control over Limbo from her mother and took on the identity of Magik. Lost control when Belasco returned.

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=== Techno-Organic infection of Limbo ===

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Limbo was also briefly controlled by '''[[Magus|The Magus]]''', an alien entity of vast technological power. To save her teammate [[Warlock (Technarch)|Warlock]], '''Magik''' stranded the Magus in Limbo, where she hoped her demon vassals would subdue him. Instead he expanded to fill the entire dimension and radically transformed its ecology within a few days. A sizable percentage of Limbo's demons were infected by the Magus with the Transmode Virus, a techno-organic pathogen that transmogrifies carbon-based organisms into living electronic machines. Although the details are unclear, it is assumed he killed a large number of them by draining them of life energy. He then escaped by unknown means, leaving roughly half the remaining demons shape-shifting, techno-organic beings like himself.

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While most living beings are immobilized by the techno-organic transformation, Limbo's demons are apparently immune to that effect. The infection can be transmitted intentionally, but most chose not to pass it on, and the ratio of "natural" to transmuted demons remained relatively stable. For example, at the time of Magik's overthrow, '''S'ym''' was a techno-organic demon, whereas '''N'Astirh''' was not.

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The domination of Limbo by the Magus was purely physical. Apart from the infections, Limbo remained unperturbed. Control reverted to Magik when he vacated, then to Belasco when Magik was de-aged and N'Astirh was killed during ''[[Inferno]]''. He retained power until recently, when he was overthrown by '''[[Amanda Sefton]]''', who had obtained Magik's Soulsword and was now calling herself Magik.

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== Temporal Limbo ==

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Temporal Limbo is the timeless realm used for [[time travel]]. It is a dimension that is unique in that it exists outside the timestream and thus possesses no time.

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Reality in Temporal Limbo is comprised of a single, ever-changing moment in which everything that ever was, is, and could be coexist.

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Human beings within Temporal Limbo might imagine that time passes there, since they are conditioned to think in such a way, but they cannot age or die there.

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It is ruled by [[Immortus]] from his castle Tenebrae, which is the primary point of interest there. Its primary occupants are the giant [[Tempus]], the [[Space Phantoms]], and Immortus. Temporal Limbo has primarily been visited by [[Avengers|the Avengers]] and their allies, such as [[Thor]].

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Thor once tried saving the planet Phantus, home of the Space Phantoms, from Limbo by expending all of Mjolnir's time travel abilities. It was later revealed in Avengers Forever that Phantus had just been a hoax.

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Kang's city-base of Chronopolis was depicted as existing outside of time, and therefore could have been in temporal Limbo.

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=== Rom's Limbo ===

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Instead of killing his foes, [[Rom|Rom the Spaceknight]] banished [[Dire Wraiths]] to a zone called Limbo. At first blush, this seemed as if it might have been a third limbo, but a canon reference to the Dire Wraiths as denizens of temporal Limbo was made in [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=41520 ''Avengers'' volume 1 # 268]. Dire Wraiths were also depicted roaming the temporal Limbo in [[What If]] I #39, although this series by definition is not canon.

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== Limbo mixed ==

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By a writer's intentional discretion or mistaken confusion, Limbo on occasion is presented as a mashup, inheriting characteristics of multiple versions. Stuart Vandal, aka ''Loki'', a contributor and editor of the ''Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2005: Alternate Universes'' replied in the [http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=34139&page=1&pp=20 official forums] that "the Limbo he ''(Belasco)'' rules is not Immortus' Limbo, as established in the Deluxe Edition handbooks and Excalibur"

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Most popularly, the Limbos were portrayed as one blended entity in [[Alex Ross]]'s [[Earth X]], but [[Earth X#Controversies|this has been declared officially non-canon]].

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==External links==

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*[http://uncannyxmen.net/db/atlas/showfaq.asp?fldAuto=14 ''UncannyXmen.net'''s article on the magical Limbo that belonged to Illyana Rasputin]

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*[http://www.marveldirectory.com/otherdimensions/limbotrue.htm ''MarvelDirectory'''s article on temporal, or "true" Limbo]

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*[http://www.marveldirectory.com/otherdimensions/limbobelasco.htm ''MarvelDirectory'''s article on Belasco's demonic Limbo]

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*[http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/councilofkangs.htm ''Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe'''s article on the Council of Kangs, containing canon reference to the Dire Wraiths being denizens of temporal Limbo]

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*[http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=41520 Grand Comics Database article on the issue of Avengers containing canon reference to the Dire Wraiths being denizens of temporal Limbo]

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+{{DisambiguationFull
-'''Limbo''' can refer to potentially multiple fictional dimensions in the Marvel Comics Multiverse.  In no particular order, the first Limbo is a magical dimension of demons which were historically ruled by [[Belasco]] and was primarily featured in [[X-Men]] comics.  The second Limbo is a place outside of time historically ruled by [[Immortus]] and the location to which [[Rom|Rom the Spaceknight]] banished the [[Dire Wraiths]].
+| New Header1_1   = [[Limbo (Battleworld)|Battleworld]]; Limbo (Battleworld) from Inferno Vol 1 3.jpg
+| New Header1_2   = [[Limbo (Otherplace)|Otherplace]]; Limbo (Otherplace) from New X-Men Vol 2 37 001.jpg
-Each Limbo shares some characteristics. None are explicitly intended to be the Catholic Limbo, but each is a sort of "pocket universe", whose physical and temporal scope are extremely limited compared to the universe that ordinary human beings inhabit.  To those within each, it appears roughly analogous to a planet, with a solid surface at one earth gravity and a sky devoid of stars.
+| New Header1_3   = [[Limbo (Kang)|Kang's Limbo]]; Limbo (Kang) from Spider-Boy Team-Up Vol 1 1 001.jpg
+| New Header1_4   = [[Limbo (Realm Between)|Realm Between]]; Realm Between from Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 398 001.png
-== Demonic Limbo ==
+| New Header1_5   = [[Limbo (Temporal)|Temporal Limbo]]; Labyrinth of Limbo 001.jpg
-This Limbo is also referred to as '''Otherplace'''.  (It has sometimes been erroneously called '''Otherworld'''; however, in the Marvel Universe, ''Otherworld'' is actually the home dimension of the beings who empower and oversee the [[Captain Britain Corps]], and should not be confused with '''Other-Earth''', homeworld of [[Kang the Conqueror]].)  Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.
+| New Header1_6   = [[Limbo (Yggdrasill)|Yggdrasill]];
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-It has an ecology composed primarily of [[Demons|demons]] of various sizes, strengths, and intellects.  It is said that its ether is much thinner than that of the normal universe, allowing for a greater spectrum of magical powers and effects.  All demons within it are magical creatures that possess spell making abilities to a greater or lesser degree.
-Although Otherplace has a linear history, time within it is not rigid.  Many points in its past and future are connected through naturally occurring temporal rifts, and its present is relative to the individual. Its history can be changed by travel through these rifts, but for some reason this is rare.
-Limbo is traditionally ruled by a Supreme Sorcerer, either a demonic native or an entity from another universe, often Earth's.  Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.  It can take the form of an otherworldly paradise, or a rocky, sulfurous perdition.  The demons of Limbo traditionally display an attitude of slavish loyalty to its sovereign, and act as his or her servants.  They will even assume forms mandated by the sorcerer if he or she is sufficiently powerful.  However, the longer Limbo's ruler spends away from the dimension, the weaker that individual's mystical thrall over it becomes, and the more autonomously the demons begin to act.  Left to their own devices they will plot to betray and conquer whomever holds the highest position.  They will also attempt to invade other realities if not held in check.
-Otherplace generally has a morally and spiritually corrupting influence over its denizens.  If human, a resident of the realm will slowly metamorphose into a demonic entity. This change enhances the magical powers of the individual at the cost of their soul.  Persons of great moral courage and wisdom can stave off the change for decades, but it is considered inevitable.  The transformation usually progresses in stages initiated by the evil acts Limbo demands for survival.  Magic in limbo is fundamentally neutral.  It is the social and political climate that leads to this process.
-The reality of Limbo is generated by a single deposit of a magical metal called [[promethium]].  In Limbo it takes the form of a giant animal heart, hidden in a cavern deep below its surface.  Removal of the promethium to another dimension will cause Limbo to vanish.  The heart of Limbo was once sought by the supervillain [[Doctor Doom]] as an inexhaustible energy source for his nation of [[Latveria]].
-=== Rulers of Otherplace ===
-The complete timeline of Limbo is unknown, but it has had several reigning sorcerers during its history with the Marvel Universe.  These include:
-* '''[[Belasco]]''': Commonly referred to as ''The Demon Belasco'', he was primarily human in appearance, and may have been human once.  Though wicked as any demon, Belasco lacked the savagery common to Limbo natives.
-* '''[[Magik|Illyana Rasputin]]''': Also known as ''Magik'', Rasputin was abducted by Belasco as a child and was raised in Limbo. Belasco employed her as an apprentice, and was eventually overthrown by her. In time her mutant power of [[teleportation]] emerged, allowing her to leave, although she remained Limbo's ruler in absentia.
-* '''[[S'ym]]''' & '''[[N'Astirh]]''': Native demons of Limbo, this pair exhibited qualities far exceeding Limbo's average.  S'ym was the most physically potent native of Limbo, while N'Astirh was a powerful sorcerer.  They were right-hand servants of Belasco and then Magik. They jointly seized power when Magik's hold weakened sufficiently due to her prolonged absence, then they tricked her into opening a permanent portal from Earth to Limbo.  Their subsequent invasion caused the "[[Inferno (Event)|Inferno]]" crossover. N'Astirh was killed when their invasion was repelled, leaving S'ym the sole ruler, but without the Soulsword to strengthen his throne.
-* '''[[Doctor Doom]]''': Conquered Limbo during his attempt to claim its precious [[promethium]]
-* '''[[Darkoth]]''': Wrested the [[Soulsword]] from Doom and slew S'ym. Assumed rulership of Limbo and wardenship of Soulsword. End of his rulership is unknown, but Soulsword was next seen back in [[Kitty Pryde]]'s possession.
-* '''[[Margali Szardos]]''': Usurped the [[Soulsword]] from Kitty and used it to kill those ahead of her on the 'Winding Way'.  She then took over Limbo
-* '''[[Amanda Sefton]]''': Assumed control over Limbo from her mother and took on the identity of Magik.  Lost control when Belasco returned.
-=== Techno-Organic infection of Limbo ===
-Limbo was also briefly controlled by '''[[Magus|The Magus]]''', an alien entity of vast technological power.  To save her teammate [[Warlock (Technarch)|Warlock]], '''Magik''' stranded the Magus in Limbo, where she hoped her demon vassals would subdue him.  Instead he expanded to fill the entire dimension and radically transformed its ecology within a few days.  A sizable percentage of Limbo's demons were infected by the Magus with the Transmode Virus, a techno-organic pathogen that transmogrifies carbon-based organisms into living electronic machines.  Although the details are unclear, it is assumed he killed a large number of them by draining them of life energy.  He then escaped by unknown means, leaving roughly half the remaining demons shape-shifting, techno-organic beings like himself.
-While most living beings are immobilized by the techno-organic transformation, Limbo's demons are apparently immune to that effect.  The infection can be transmitted intentionally, but most chose not to pass it on, and the ratio of "natural" to transmuted demons remained relatively stable.  For example, at the time of Magik's overthrow, '''S'ym''' was a techno-organic demon, whereas '''N'Astirh''' was not.
-The domination of Limbo by the Magus was purely physical.  Apart from the infections, Limbo remained unperturbed.  Control reverted to Magik when he vacated, then to Belasco when Magik was de-aged and N'Astirh was killed during ''[[Inferno]]''.  He retained power until recently, when he was overthrown by '''[[Amanda Sefton]]''', who had obtained Magik's Soulsword and was now calling herself Magik.
-== Temporal Limbo ==
-Temporal Limbo is the timeless realm used for [[time travel]]. It is a dimension that is unique in that it exists outside the timestream and thus possesses no time.
-Reality in Temporal Limbo is comprised of a single, ever-changing moment in which everything that ever was, is, and could be coexist.
-Human beings within Temporal Limbo might imagine that time passes there, since they are conditioned to think in such a way, but they cannot age or die there.
-It is ruled by [[Immortus]] from his castle Tenebrae, which is the primary point of interest there. Its primary occupants are the giant [[Tempus]], the [[Space Phantoms]], and Immortus. Temporal Limbo has primarily been visited by [[Avengers|the Avengers]] and their allies, such as [[Thor]].
-Thor once tried saving the planet Phantus, home of the Space Phantoms, from Limbo by expending all of Mjolnir's time travel abilities. It was later revealed in Avengers Forever that Phantus had just been a hoax.
-Kang's city-base of Chronopolis was depicted as existing outside of time, and therefore could have been in temporal Limbo.
-=== Rom's Limbo ===
-Instead of killing his foes, [[Rom|Rom the Spaceknight]] banished [[Dire Wraiths]] to a zone called Limbo.  At first blush, this seemed as if it might have been a third limbo, but a canon reference to the Dire Wraiths as denizens of temporal Limbo was made in [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=41520 ''Avengers'' volume 1 # 268].  Dire Wraiths were also depicted roaming the temporal Limbo in [[What If]] I #39, although this series by definition is not canon.
-== Limbo mixed ==
-By a writer's intentional discretion or mistaken confusion, Limbo on occasion is presented as a mashup, inheriting characteristics of multiple versions.  Stuart Vandal, aka ''Loki'', a contributor and editor of the ''Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2005: Alternate Universes'' replied in the [http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=34139&page=1&pp=20 official forums] that "the Limbo he ''(Belasco)'' rules is not Immortus' Limbo, as established in the Deluxe Edition handbooks and Excalibur"
-Most popularly, the Limbos were portrayed as one blended entity in [[Alex Ross]]'s [[Earth X]], but [[Earth X#Controversies|this has been declared officially non-canon]].
-==External links==
-*[http://uncannyxmen.net/db/atlas/showfaq.asp?fldAuto=14 ''UncannyXmen.net'''s article on the magical Limbo that belonged to Illyana Rasputin]
-*[http://www.marveldirectory.com/otherdimensions/limbotrue.htm ''MarvelDirectory'''s article on temporal, or "true" Limbo]
-*[http://www.marveldirectory.com/otherdimensions/limbobelasco.htm ''MarvelDirectory'''s article on Belasco's demonic Limbo]
-*[http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/councilofkangs.htm ''Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe'''s article on the Council of Kangs, containing canon reference to the Dire Wraiths being denizens of temporal Limbo]
-*[http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=41520 Grand Comics Database article on the issue of Avengers containing canon reference to the Dire Wraiths being denizens of temporal Limbo]
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-[[Category:Dimensions]]
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