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Auto-categorization of author credits

It doesn't work properly from Story6 and onward. Magic word thing doesn't work and authors like Al Bellman and Bill Everett are getting their work divided into two categories like Category:William Blake Everett/Penciler and Category:Bill Everett/Penciler. Is there a way to fix it? --Mrkermit (talk) 15:15, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Typo

A recent edit seems to have introduced a typo to the recent issue warning: "Warning! This comic has a very recent peublication date and the article below may contain spoilers! Read beyond this point at your own risk!" Digifiend (talk) 17:23, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

Displaying universe as well?

Would it be possible to add a field for which universe an issue takes place in as well? Like, for all Earth-1610 comics it would display that info? That would be very useful information to a lot of readers, I think, because then they can find other comics that take place in that same timeline. — Emitewiki2 (talk) 02:22, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

Edit request

Protected template edit request

The code for this template gets weird at the 31st title, there's solicit code stuck in there that NONE of the other title iterations have. (I doubt there's actually anything in the database with > 30 titles, but..)

Here's the code:

}} }}{{#if:{{{Appearing30|}}}{{{StoryTitle30|}}}|{{Marvel Database:Comic Template/Appearances Synopsis
| Number          = 30
| ReprintOf       = {{#if:{{{ReprintOf30|}}}|{{{ReprintOf30}}}}}
| StoryTitle      = {{#if:{{{StoryTitle30|}}}|{{{StoryTitle30}}}}}
| AppearingHeader = {{#if:{{{Appearing30Header|}}}|{{{Appearing30Header}}}}}
| Appearing       = {{#if:{{{Appearing30|}}}|{{{Appearing30}}}<br />}}
| SynopsisHeader  = {{#if:{{{Synopsis30Header|}}}|{{{Synopsis30Header}}}}}
| Synopsis        = {{#if:{{{Synopsis30|}}}|{{{Synopsis30}}}|{{#if:{{{ReprintOf30|}}}|<br /><br /><big>'''--For a full synopsis of this comic, please see the original publishing of this comic in {{c|{{{ReprintOf30}}}}}.--'''</big><br />}}}}
}} }}{{#if:{{{Appearing31|}}}{{{StoryTitle31|}}}|{{Marvel Database:Comic Template/Appearances Synopsis
| Number          = 31
| ReprintOf       = {{#if:{{{ReprintOf31|}}}|{{{ReprintOf31}}}}}
| StoryTitle      = {{#if:{{{StoryTitle31|}}}|{{{StoryTitle31}}}}}
| AppearingHeader = {{#if:{{{Appearing31Header|}}}|{{{Appearing31Header}}}}}
| Appearing       = {{#if:{{{Appearing31|}}}|{{{Appearing31}}}<br />}}
| SynopsisHeader  = {{#if:{{{Synopsis31Header|}}}|{{{Synopsis31Header}}}| {{#if:{{{Synopsis31|}}}||{{#if:{{{Solicit|}}}| Solicit Synopsis }} }} }}
| Synopsis        = {{#if:{{{Synopsis31|}}}|{{{Synopsis31}}}| {{#if:{{{Solicit|}}}| {{{Solicit}}} }} }}
}} }}{{#if:{{{Appearing32|}}}{{{StoryTitle32|}}}|{{Marvel Database:Comic Template/Appearances Synopsis
| Number          = 32
| ReprintOf       = {{#if:{{{ReprintOf32|}}}|{{{ReprintOf32}}}}}
| StoryTitle      = {{#if:{{{StoryTitle32|}}}|{{{StoryTitle32}}}}}
| AppearingHeader = {{#if:{{{Appearing32Header|}}}|{{{Appearing32Header}}}}}
| Appearing       = {{#if:{{{Appearing32|}}}|{{{Appearing32}}}<br />}}
| SynopsisHeader  = {{#if:{{{Synopsis32Header|}}}|{{{Synopsis32Header}}}}}
| Synopsis        = {{#if:{{{Synopsis32|}}}|{{{Synopsis32}}}|{{#if:{{{ReprintOf32|}}}|<br /><br /><big>'''--For a full synopsis of this comic, please see the original publishing of this comic in {{c|{{{ReprintOf32}}}}}.--'''</big><br />}}}}

To match the others, 31 should contain:

}} }}{{#if:{{{Appearing31|}}}{{{StoryTitle31|}}}|{{Marvel Database:Comic Template/Appearances Synopsis
| Number          = 31
| ReprintOf       = {{#if:{{{ReprintOf31|}}}|{{{ReprintOf31}}}}}
| StoryTitle      = {{#if:{{{StoryTitle31|}}}|{{{StoryTitle31}}}}}
| AppearingHeader = {{#if:{{{Appearing31Header|}}}|{{{Appearing31Header}}}}}
| Appearing       = {{#if:{{{Appearing31|}}}|{{{Appearing31}}}<br />}}
| SynopsisHeader  = {{#if:{{{Synopsis31Header|}}}|{{{Synopsis31Header}}}}}
| Synopsis        = {{#if:{{{Synopsis31|}}}|{{{Synopsis31}}}|{{#if:{{{ReprintOf31|}}}|<br /><br /><big>'''--For a full synopsis of this comic, please see the original publishing of this comic in {{c|{{{ReprintOf31}}}}}.--'''</big><br />}}}}

-- FeRDNYC (talk) 17:30, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I see Harasar sorted that out a couple of weeks ago, my thanks! -- FeRDNYC (talk) 11:36, April 16, 2019 (UTC)

Category Magic not quite working?

I've noticed some Comic Volume pages don't include all of the issues. For example, Iron Man Vol 5 is missing most issues, because it's Category doesn't have them, even though the issues in that volume are using this template. I've tried to compare the issues that ARE in the category with the others that aren't, but can't see any fundamental difference in usage of this template. Perhaps I'm missing something? Jedi.jesse (talk) 17:01, July 10, 2020 (UTC)

Please see Thread:1437577 Copeinator123 (talk) 19:45, July 10, 2020 (UTC)
Great, thanks for the info! Jedi.jesse (talk) 04:32, July 12, 2020 (UTC)

Cover Price vs. Original Price

Currently, the template uses Original Price. However, this figure varies (for decades now) based on size of order which proportionately affects the discount creating a variable original price. As such, it needs to be replaced with Cover Price to appropriately convey accurate information (since Cover Price will never change). Also it will encourage editors who would previously shy away due to the ambiguity of "Original Price" to add the unambiguous Cover Price data point thus enriching the Database further. —Adaaaam (talk) 06:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand your point. Ucanny X-Men became 1$ in '88 and, despite being the best seller in the industry, it still costed the same as the GI Joe comics being released at the time with 1$ cover price. | Pedronog (talk) 06:35, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
In '88 two avenues existed for collectors to acquire Marvel comics. One was called the Direct Market (started in early '70s by Phil Seuling and adopted late '70s by Marvel to cut out American News Company, the major distributor of magazines/comics/newspapers at the time).
Direct distributors paid far lower prices than to newsstand distributors but sacrificed returnability. This savings was passed onto collectors in the form of discounts. So those with pullboxes, for example, would have originally paid as low as $0.50 instead of the $1 you originally paid for your issue of Uncanny X-Men the day it released.
Therefore "Original Price" is not necessarily the cover price as it truly varies. So by calling CP the OP instead of what it really is, we are wrongly associating a variable value with a static attribute i.e. presenting wrong information (especially reckless on sites meant to provide encyclopedically accurate knowledge) —Adaaaam (talk) 06:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I don't agree with your arguments. I can buy a PS5 from a friend for 10 bucks. That doesn't mean the original price isn't a few hundreds. The original price is the official original price of the comic in question. We could obviously change it to cover price (or even original cover price), but why would we go through th trouble of changing every single page when this one works perfectly well? That's change for the sake of change. | Pedronog (talk) 07:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
In your example, you are participating in the aftermarket, where prices are dictated by variables including condition of used goods. It is NOT in the same category of unused goods sold by retailers. You are even admitting Original Price to you personally is the "official" original price which means MSRP, so you are admitting this value is the cover price (to you)!
So why beat around the bush and not call it what it is? Why create unnecessary ambiguity among readers who don't share your same viewpoint, when one swift modification will start a path towards a unified destination where ambiguity is objectively eliminated for ALL readers?
All change must start somewhere. If this mistake remains uncorrected, then ambiguity will continue to compound, making future change that much harder. Surely tools such as https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MassEdit will help ease the process.
This is a community wiki, the onus is on none of us to contribute, stop viewing it negatively as if its somehow your sole responsibility. Those willing to contribute will step up accordingly (such as me when not recovering from COVID), just as a wiki was intended to function. —Adaaaam (talk) 07:51, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if you've noticed but prices aren't on the cover anymore, so, from my POV, calling it cover price would result in maybe even more ambiguity. None of the arguments you've provided have made me think other wise. I'll let others pitch in to hear their views, but I'm not convinced. | Pedronog (talk) 08:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm not here to convince you, I'm creating discussion on a community wiki to effect change by eliciting discussion by those who don't wield power. Your firm belief OriginalPrice is unambiguous is unsurprising because that's the way YOU bought books. This encyclopedia needs to be accessible to EVERYONE, not just you.
And if a price is not on a cover and an editor derives MSRP from some official source and cites it appropriately, then it needs to be inserted into "MSRP" not "CoverPrice" —Adaaaam (talk) 08:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I don't know what you're here to do, but if you don't convince anybody, you won't get anything changed. That's how a community works. | Pedronog (talk) 08:08, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I told you, to effect change by correcting a mistake. You said "I'm not convinced" as if your opinion somehow carries extra weight on a community wiki. I'm letting you it doesn't. You are one person, stop thinking you are the whole community sir —Adaaaam (talk) 08:11, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
If you're not convinced there's no need to state it as if your sole opinion is extra significant (especially since the logic you use relies on your own interpretation of OriginalPrice but the issue is regarding ambiguity reaching other readers) —Adaaaam (talk) 08:16, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
And you don't "let" others pitch in this is a community Talk, we are free to discuss without your permission (as intended by my creation of this topic) —Adaaaam (talk) 08:18, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

To address Pedronog's concern of the impracticability of editing so many articles (which will only grow worse the longer the mislabel persists), AutoWikiBrowser is a popular tool used by Wikians to mass edit articles that editors of this community can similarly utilize to mass-replace OriginalPrice, which describes a variable value based on how the collector acquired the new issue, not the constant MSRP set by Marvel.

Since MSRP's come and go on Marvel's covers throughout the years, MSRP not CoverPrice would then be the ideal fit for an unambiguous label that would even encourage editors to utilize e.g. marvel.com to enrich entries further. —Adaaaam (talk) 10:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

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