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When Reed Richards conducts another experiment on the Thing's mutations over the years, he comes to the conclusion that Ben's preferred state is that of the "rocky hide" thing. He shows Ben another serum he had hoped would change Ben back into human form but deduces that it would have only worked on Ben back during the earlier days of his mutation where his "Thing" form was more reptilian in nature as opposed to a rock-like material.

Thinking that he'd be better off if he wasn't the Thing, Ben takes the serum and uses Dr. Doom's time machine to travel back in time to the early days of the Fantastic Four. There, before the Fantastic Four set up shop in the Baxter Building, Ben finds his earlier self.

The embittered past incarnation attacks Ben, not believing that he is his counterpart from the future. After a lengthy battle between the two Things, Ben manages to knock out his past self. He administers the serum that Reed had created for him and the past-Ben changes back into human form. When Ben himself doesn't change to human form as well, he figures he just needs to return to the present.

Traveling through Dr. Doom's time machine once more, Ben arrives back in the present where he finds that he's still in his mutated form. When he tells Reed of his adventure, Reed explains to Ben that his past is immutable -- and instead of changing his own history, Ben created an alternate reality.

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Continuity Notes

Reed mentions that he had lost his powers recently. Those powers began to fade in Fantastic Four #154 until he eventually lost them in Fantastic Four #178. He remained powerless until they were restored by Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four #197.

This is the first time it is acknowledged that the Thing's form continued to mutate from his original dinosaur-like hide first seen in Fantastic Four #1 to his trademark brick-like appearance that began appearing circa Fantastic Four #10.

Ben goes back in time to the point prior to the Fantastic Four moving into the Baxter Building which occurred circa Fantastic Four #3. Based on the Sliding Timescale of Earth-616 Ben traveled back in time roughly five years from the point of this story to the past.

Ben refers to the Time-Platform as belonging to Doctor Doom. The Fantastic Four confiscated Doom's time platform after their first encounter with him in Fantastic Four #5, however as explained in Fantastic Four Annual #11 that Reed had to return it before it caused a diplomatic incident, but was able to build a replica before doing so.

Reed postulates that Ben's venture back in time created a divergent reality. However it is later discovered in Marvel Two-In-One #100 that Ben actually traveled to an alternate dimension.

Publication Notes

This issue is reprinted in comics and books, see references for more info.^[1]

Links and References

References

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This issue is reprinted in the following comics/TPB's:
- Adventures of the Thing #1 (April 1992)
- Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne #0

[1] This issue is reprinted in the following comics/TPB's:
Adventures of the Thing #1 (April 1992)

Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne #0

[2] Adventures of the Thing #1 (April 1992)

[3] Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne #0

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 | Year                = 1979
-| Editor-in-Chief     =
+| Editor-in-Chief     = Jim Shooter
 | CoverArtist1        = George Perez
 | CoverArtist2        = Joe Sinnott
-| Editor1_1           = Roger Stern
+| Quotation           =
+| Speaker             =
+| NextIssue           = {{c|Marvel Two-In-One Annual #4}}
+| StoryTitle1         = Remembrance of Things Past!
 | Writer1_1           = John Byrne
 | Penciler1_1         = John Byrne
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 | Colourist1_1        = Francoise Mouly
 | Letterer1_1         = Jim Novak
+| Editor1_1           = Roger Stern
+| Synopsis1           = When [[Reed Richards (Earth-616)|Reed Richards]] conducts another experiment on the Thing's mutations over the years, he comes to the conclusion that Ben's preferred state is that of the "rocky hide" thing. He shows Ben another serum he had hoped would change Ben back into human form but deduces that it would have only worked on Ben back during the earlier days of his mutation where his "Thing" form was more reptilian in nature as opposed to a rock-like material.
+Thinking that he'd be better off if he wasn't the Thing, Ben takes the serum and uses Dr. Doom's time machine to travel back in time to the early days of the Fantastic Four. There, before the Fantastic Four set up shop in the Baxter Building, Ben finds his earlier self.
-| Quotation           =
-| Speaker             =
+The embittered past incarnation attacks Ben, not believing that he is his counterpart from the future. After a lengthy battle between the two Things, Ben manages to knock out his past self. He administers the serum that Reed had created for him and the past-Ben changes back into human form. When Ben himself doesn't change to human form as well, he figures he just needs to return to the present.
-| StoryTitle1         = Remembrance of Things Past!
-| Synopsis1           = When [[Reed Richards]] conducts another experiment on the Thing's mutations over the years, he comes to the conclusion that Ben's preferred state is that of the rockey hided thing. He shows Ben another serum he had hoped would change Ben back into human form, but deduces that it would have only worked on Ben back during the earlier days of his mutation where his "Thing" form was more reptilian in nature as opposed to a rock-like material.
+Traveling through Dr. Doom's time machine once more, Ben arrives back in the present where he finds that he's still in his mutated form. When he tells Reed of his adventure, Reed explains to Ben that his past is immutable -- and instead of changing his own history, Ben created an alternate reality.
-Thinking that he'd be better off if he wasn't the Thing, Ben takes the serum and uses Dr. Doom's time machine to travel back in time to the early days of the Fantastic Four. There, before the Fantastic Four setup shop in the Baxter Building, Ben finds his earlier self.<Br>
-The embittered past incarnation attacks the Ben, not believing that he is his counterpart from the future. After a lengthy battle between the two Things, Ben manages to knock out his past self. He administers the serum that Reed had created for him, and the past-Ben changes back into human form. When Ben himself doesn't change to human form as well, he figures he just needs to return to the present.<br>
-Traveling through Dr. Doom's time machine once more, Ben arrives back in the present where he finds that he still in his mutated form. When he tells Reed of his adventure, Reed explains to him that Ben's past is immutable, and instead of changing his own history, Ben only succeeded in creating an alternate reality.
-| Appearing1 =
+| Appearing1          =
 '''Featured Characters:'''
-* [[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-616)|Thing (Ben Grimm)]]
+* {{apn|[[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-616)|Thing (Earth-616)]]||Marvel Two-In-One Annual #4}}
-* [[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-7940)|Thing (Earth-7490)]] {{1st}}
+* {{apn|[[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-7940)|Thing (Earth-7940)]]|-|Marvel Two-In-One #100}} {{1st}}
 '''Supporting Characters:'''
-* [[Reed Richards (Earth-616)|Mr. Fantastic]]
+* {{apn|[[Reed Richards (Earth-616)|Mr. Fantastic]]|Marvel Two-In-One #47|Marvel Team-Up Annual #2}}
-* [[Reed Richards (Earth-7940)|Mr. Fantastic (Earth-7940)]] {{1st}}
+* {{apn|[[Reed Richards (Earth-7940)|Mr. Fantastic (Earth-7940)]]|-|Marvel Two-In-One #100}} {{1st}}
-'''Villains:'''
+'''Antagonists:'''
 * <br/>
 '''Other Characters:'''
 * <br/>
 '''Locations:'''
+* {{a|[[Earth-616]]}}
-* <br/>
+** {{a|[[New York City]]}}
+*** {{a|[[Manhattan]]}}
+* {{1st|[[Earth-7940]]}}
+** {{1st|[[New Amsterdam]]}} {{Green|See Continuity Notes}}
+*** {{a|[[Manhattan]]}}
+**** {{a|[[Baxter Building]]}}
 '''Items:'''
+* {{a|[[Time Platform]]}}
-* <br/>
 '''Vehicles:'''
 * <br/>
-| Notes               =
+| Notes               = ===Continuity Notes===
-* According to the [[http://www.marvunapp.com/|Unofficial Appendix to the Marvel Universe]] the alternate reality that Ben created in this story has been designated as [[Earth-7940]].
+* Reed mentions that he had lost his powers recently. Those powers began to fade in {{C|Fantastic Four #154}} until he eventually lost them in {{c|Fantastic Four #178}}. He remained powerless until they were restored by [[Victor von Doom (Earth-616)|Doctor Doom]] in {{c|Fantastic Four #197}}.
+* This is the first time it is acknowledged that the Thing's form continued to mutate from his original dinosaur-like hide first seen in {{c|Fantastic Four #1}} to his trademark brick-like appearance that began appearing circa {{c|Fantastic Four #10}}.
+* Ben goes back in time to the point prior to the Fantastic Four moving into the Baxter Building which occurred circa {{c|Fantastic Four #3}}. Based on the [[Glossary:Sliding Timescale|Sliding Timescale]] of [[Earth-616]] Ben traveled back in time roughly five years from the point of this story to the past.
+* Ben refers to the Time-Platform as belonging to Doctor Doom. The Fantastic Four confiscated Doom's time platform after their first encounter with him in {{c|Fantastic Four #5}}, however as explained in {{c|Fantastic Four Annual #11}} that Reed had to return it before it caused a diplomatic incident, but was able to build a replica before doing so.
+* Reed postulates that Ben's venture back in time created a divergent reality. However it is later discovered in {{c|Marvel Two-In-One #100}} that Ben actually traveled to an alternate dimension.
+==Publication Notes==
+* This issue is reprinted in comics and books, see references for more info.<ref> This issue is reprinted in the following comics/TPB's:
+* {{c|Adventures of the Thing Vol 1 1|Adventures of the Thing #1}} (April 1992)
+* {{c|Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne #0}}
+</ref>
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Appearing in "Remembrance of Things Past!"

Synopsis for "Remembrance of Things Past!"

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