While browsing Mister Fantastic's disimbiguation page (did I say that right?), I found a page about a non-existent Earth-1048 Reed Richards (https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Richards_(Earth-1048).
I'm requesting the deletion of this page because we don't really know if any of the members of the Fantastic Four exist on Insomniac's universe, be it superpowered or not.
I don't think it's entirely far-fetched to assume that the "RR" in the post-it note stands for "Reed Richards." However, I would like to contact Insomniac or any of the developers and ask them if that is actually the case. Unfortunatley, I don't have a Twitter account to do so personally.
I would like to make pages for the different universes featured in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (Miles', Peter B Parker's, Gwen's, Noir's, Peni's, Peter Porker's, Miguel's). If I get permission, how would I go about doing that?
Right now there's a discussion in the talk page for the movie's article about whether the reality designations for each reality appeared or not in the movie, so that's slowing down any page creation. However, it seems like they used the designations from the comics, so that'll still force us to use a TRN. I'll talk with the rest of the admin team about it in a bit.
Hello, I have a follow-up to this question. I don't think it's right to ignore the designations that appear on-screen, so would it be okay to treat the new TRNs as offshoots of the respective comic universes? While the present characters have deviations, their backstories are basically identical. Also, could the original numbers still be listed on the pain page with (On-screen) tag? I asked this on Talk: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse but got no response. HBK123 (talk) 16:19, December 24, 2018 (UTC)
As you most likely know Donald Blake was the alter ego of Thor created by Odin to teach him a lesson. My question concerns Donald vs Thor "appearances" should Donald only get an appearance credit if Thor turned into him during the story, or because they "share" a body do they both get appearances even if one doesn't actually show up?
I'm setting up my own list of appearances for characters and have been going back to these specific issues and only adding them based off their form appearances, but the wiki is a bit inconsistent with this. As sometimes Donald is listed even if he doesn't "appear" and sometimes he's not and vice versa. Sometimes Donald appears but Thor doesn't. I get they were eventually split but I'm speaking exclusively before that. What's the norm for situations like this?
I'm not sure there's an official stand on the Donald Blake / Thor situation, but I can ask the rest of the admin team what's their take. Personally, I think Donald should only get an appearance credit if he actually shows up in the comic, and the same applies for Thor.
In a medium full of stories with body-sharing, body-snatching and mind-transferral, I think it's better to consider that for a character to "appear," their own consciousness needs to manifest in the story in some shape and form. For example, when Doc Ock was Superior Spider-Man, one could argue that Peter Parker appeared physically in the stories Octavius was present, since it was his body Octavius was inhabiting, but we don't regard them as appearances since Peter's consciousness was not present.
By that logic though would Donald Blake even technically have "appearances" prior to being split then? Either way let me know what you guys end up deciding. I get the Doc Ock comparison but I think this situation a lot more muddled than that. I mean Mystique often looks like other people so you wouldn't consider that an appearance, but Donald & Thor are the same person until being split. That being said it still sort of feels wrong to cut out Donald completely out of those appearances when he has his own character page and is suppose to have been apart of those experiences. *Shrug*
I am not extremely familiar with the Thor and Blake situation, but I had the imperssion they acted like they were different people when each was in control of their body (I'm not saying they had different personalities, but that Thor was distinctly Thor and Blake was distinctly Blake).
Yes and no. They each retained their mannerisms, but for all intensive purposes they seem to be the same person. Retaining the same memories and never really questioned one another's presence. In fact the Hulk/Bruce Banner had more duality and opinion of the other than Thor/Donald Blake. Although that was often chalked up to Hulk "forgetting" they were one and the same, then it evolved into almost a multiple personality persona. Donald & Thor never had that as far as I'm aware until after they were split, although even that's convoluted.
There is the physical change as well, but again I bring up Hulk & Bruce Banner, unless they're split they're generally treated as the same character.
I think I remember reading a Brian Cronin CBR column about how muddled the Thor/Blake duality was and how a lot of details about the way it worked were pretty much established on the go.
I think the best option would be to regard their situation before they were split as something similar to Rick Jones / Captain Marvel when it comes to categorizing the presence of the characters on the page.
It really is. Basically is started out where it was just Blake having powers of Thor ala similar to SHAZAM but then they started diving more and more into the Asgardian stuff which started to treat Thor as his own character complete with family relations that he seemed to remember despite Donald not actually suppose to be Thor. Then Stan basically got a reader letter that he adapted to be canon that said Donald was always Thor but was an aspect created by Odin to make him more humble. Truly was the wild west when it came to adapting stories haha.
That being said I'll be sure to try and follow that then, if he transforms or reverts to Donald Blake I'll list him on a page otherwise it's just Thor, and vice versa.