MysteryScooby

I didn't realize that issue was considered an alternate future. Would you suggesting putting the information putting the information in a TRN or an Unknown Reality?

I think TRN is fine.

Makes sense. I'll revert my edits right away.

Earth-TRN387 is considered an alternate future for Earth-98311.

I suppose the cover is better; covers are normally preferable. Honestly, it's just depends on whether you prefer showing all current hosts or just the "main" host. I'll leave it to you to decide, but I do want to mention that Luke Cage utilizes a similar textless-with-a-title image.

My main issue with the cover is that it doesn't give a good look at Cletus' Dark Carnage form. If we're going to use a cover, I'd personally recommend using one of the alternates that shows him as more than just a silhouette.

Also, I've heard a rumour that Marvel is not going to be putting out textless versions of comic covers anymore, which if true means using them as go-to images for character infoboxes won't be possible anymore.

1) Like I said, I'll leave that up to you. personally, I'd like an image that shows off his boney exterior.

2) I hope that rumor's false. If it isn't, we'd just have an increase in cropped cover images being uploaded.

Same, but unfortunately most of the alternate covers just portray him as resembling regular Carnage -- sometimes even leaving out the back protrusions, forehead spiral, and chest emblem.

Cover artists normally get a lot of artistic freedom. If they want to draw a character in a different costume than what they wear in the issue, there's usually little push back.

Which leads me to question the policy of using cover images for the character infoboxes. If the covers clearly and accurately display the character's most-recent, that's one thing, but if they don't...

Well then we'd opt to use an interior image. If no image of the the current outfit is available, or it's only in clunky minor appearances, then we'd go with their last look [in that alias if possible]. We'd only use a non canon or conjecture, but on covers look if it's all we have.

So in the case of Dark Carnage would an interior image work better than any of the covers?

I would think so, but I haven’t read a lot of Dark Carnage’s stories yet.

The unfortunate circumstance is that not a lot of panels really give a good look at Dark Carnage's "Prophet of the Void" form.

His story's not over yet so hopefully we'll get a suitable image before it ends. For now, the cover can be considered a placeholder.

Huh. Gijimu uploaded this image and swapped the Absolute Carnage #1 cover image for it, but it needs to be renamed.

Is that the one you were looking for?

Yeah, that's it. Thanks.

Image has been renamed by ADour.

Mmm. Seems like the renaming bot is working again.

It's the same naming that you originally put.

I think it should, since it's being used as his main image.

So should I crop it and resubmit it under the proper name (including Cletus Kasady), and have the original be deleted? Or is there a different protocol in these situations?

Since the original file name is lacking, I think your suggestion should be fine.

Will do.

It's done.

This wiki doesn't do the legacy image format, rather it prefers to use the latest outfit. And if we don't have one, meaning the armor has been updated past the looks in Iron Tech Armor (Earth-1610)/Gallery, then we'd have to use the second latest look. In this case, we would use an image of Tony in the Future Foundation Armor.

Even if that means using a lesser quality image- the FF Armor which I chose not to use and which only appears 7 times-, or an outdated image like the one I tried to replace?

Even if Ultimate Iron Man showed up again in his classic armor only a few times, they are still his most recent appearances. Futhermore, Tony wore another armor after the NR-Phantom .9d M.A.G. Armor, the Future Foundation Armor. (Additionally, it can be argued that the bulky grey and red suit is more iconic than the Phantom Armor, but the infobox is not the place to showcase a character's most iconic look, but rather their most recent).

Ignore the previous paragraph since MysteryScooby addressed it in the time between I opened this thread and wrote my message.

Yes, the Ultimates cover is old, but the quality of a cover illustration from before he ditched that look is better than any interior artwork that could be taken from either of his most recent appearances.

I would have used an FF armor image, like I said, if there was one of decent quality to add

BTW, the one used back in the day was Antonio Stark (Earth-1610) from Ultimate FF Vol 1 1 cover.jpg.

Unfortunately there isn't. Ultimate FF didn't last for long and had bad art.

But like I mentioned, it's permissible to use an old image since there is virtually no difference between Ultimate Iron Man as he looked like in 2002 and as he looks like now, and any of these old illustrations are of better quality than any of the interior art that could be taken from Ultimate Iron Man's most recent appearances.

Well damn that old FF image is ugly for a main image, glad that's not the one in use

It used to be for the little time he wore that armor, since the article needed to reflect his then-current appearance. I wasn't happy with it either, but we have to make do sometimes.

I'm trying to follow the reasoning behind putting characters such as Anthony Stark (Onslaught Reborn) (Earth-616) in the related section. And are you really upset I'm editing pages you've worked on?

Yeah it just seems that no one wants to work on certain things so when I can find a project to do per say I notice people all of a sudden just start making the easiest possible edits on the pages right after I work on it it's not a personal attack on you it's just I'm seeing alot of low effort edits being done when I am actually putting the time in to create these things so people can enjoy reading about the characters like I did a character page earlier and when I was working on it someone came and switched a little information like adding a category when that was on my list of things to add myself.

If any of the admins make pages or then some I never see anyone come right in and make a change automatically because the admin I will say about 45-50% of the time will undo the edit that the other person did and that particular editor won't go back and do it again due to the potential of being blocked. Since I am on the low end of the totem pole I don't have that much sway in that manner. So that's just it. Sorry if I came off a little spiteful, I just put alot of passion into my work to make sure that it's at least adequate enough.

It happens to all editors throughout the fandom. I'll be working on a project when all the sudden a red link turned blue. I don't often assume someone's gonna add or fix something on a page, I worry that they simply missed it. I'm trying to do my part. You're not the first person whose "attacked" me for doing their "designated" edits for then and you won't be the last. But going off my policy for images, how long do you want people to wait before they can edit pages you've specifically created?

I can't make people wait, so whatever they do, it can be right away I just hope people put in good quality work to make this fandom grow to it's fullest potential. But I have seen alot of people do low quality of edit's alot now more than in the past.

Always seeing the mods undoing edits because no one is willing to fill in the history part, but will only fill the infobox box with like say a person's death or them being alive again for example.

I didn't get that interpretation when I read it, I wouldn't have made the page if I did. But anyway, you should consider creating Talk:Man-Spider (Earth-28204), so the admins can decide.

Yes. There were so many alternates, others, related and even teams that we had to use "Comment visible only for editors" to prevent the pages from breaking.

I believe it is Fair Use. We do not own it either, Marvel does.