Hello. Do you think it is okay for me to start separating Time Runs Out events from 616 pages, or is it better to wait until more admins weight in their opinions? Thank you. HBK123 (talk) 16:15, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Please can you block Cheesemaster56777. He is undoing edits, whether or not he believes it to be the benefit to the wiki, but he just sent me a random message on a message on my wall from Copeinator, nothing to do with this. I removed his message as it had 'Candidate for deletion' all over the page.
Hi! On it, it's an angry child who doesn't understand rules nor civil behavior. I've currently blocked him 3 times in the last minutes, and he seems to think that undoing my edits will make feel like it will do him any good.
I will let you try to explain it to the admins and/or mods actually involved in the matter, I haven't followed the subject.
From where I stand, I will simply block you again (you'll be able to message the relevant staff members). Multiple accounts aren't allowed, and I won't step away to that decision made by fellow staff member (if they feel like unblocking you, it'll be a collegial matter based on their appreciation). For the record, I don't like that much being consulted when other staff members are actually involved in the matter, presumably as a way to avoid said staff members' vigilance.
SO I'm working through sorting out the characters by Family, but I keep running into issues with those of Gods, and other Ancient families (Titans, etc) and was wondering if you had any suggestion on how to consilidate them, because you've done a thorough job, they seem to be too spread out now, with not clear connection between groups. My current best example is Norse, currently from my brief search we have Bor, Odin, Thor, Hela, Sif & Heimdall, Cul and several others which are all related but from the same family. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on a root name in which I could put all these under
Well in your example, the only relevant root-category would be Category:Buri Family (related to Ymir or Gaea), as he is the forebearer of Njord and Bor.
I'm looking for the reference (I'm sure I've noted it somewhere), but most of those families could fall under "Imperial House of the Aesir", which could also be a replacement for part of Odinson and Laufeyson Family Tree). That would make sense for (maybe) Buri, Bor, Odin, Vili, Cul (those two last being only father+1 descendant).
Loki and Thor (and families) would need to remain pages and subcategories of multiple categories, as they're the offspring and adopted children of multiple families.
I'm unsure about Vidar (I don't recall if he belongs in the royal family, and if he doesn't, his own category should remain apart/a subcategory, but he doesn't have a lot of pages in it, so the interest is low).
Balder family was created because of Honir (Earth-616) (there is similar cases among gods and demons: characters related only to one other such as a cousin or the brother, thus making the ascendency unknown. Same for Arkin in Loki's family, such [sh/c]ould be for Pazuzu in Lilith family). They could added into the "parent" subcategory (and thus ending in the "root" category), by deciding if they are relevant to fall into (ex: should Honir be added to the royal house).
Sif & Heimdall category, as any Vanir family, could become a subcategory under the Vanir category, which a subcategory of Njord family. But I can't relate them to any other categories as their origin is vague, and unrelated to Freyr, Freyja or Njord.
monsters (Angergoba is related to the Elder gods and her spawn with Loki spawned monsters and/or are related as a whole to elder monsters).
Hela category should remain a subcategory of Odin, Loki, as, regarding realities, it is the offspring of either or none. The other Lokispawn should remain subcategories as well, due to their relevancy as start of famous lineages.
I was thinking Hela's category could be removed as only Modi and Hela are part of it. But that Hela is not part of Loki or Odin's family. That's one of the exceptions. (I finally remembered that Karnilla had wedded Hela, so the category is up for 4 characters, and I would advocate that 616 could stay as well)
I think that's all for your example (as well as a few other families that seemed relevant to note as to be removed or at least checked).
As you can see, each category should be handled in various ways, regarding clarity, relevancy, interest of the category and number of pages in it.
An easy exemple would be: it's relevant to have the Elder Gods families as subcategories of the Demiurge family, as they are the parent categories for many more families (gods, monsters...). On the next level, Gaea, Chthon and Set's spawns' families should be subcategories as well (and not just part of their parent categories, as they're themselves the parent categories to many more stuff. The opposite logic would have us have Ymir, Loki, Thor, Fenris, the Storm Giants, the Frost Giants, the Nightgaunts...
In the same way, I don't see any way to have Sif & Heimdall under the same category, while I don't think it would be relevant for Hela. The others can more or less be regrouped, but I think at least (maybe only) Thor meet the relevancy aspect.
Hope I've been clear, and happy to discuss the matter if needed.
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Hello Undoniel. I want to talk with you about Copeinator123 deconstructioning the characters pages in this wiki. 2 days ago he messed up Wolverines Thor's Hercules and Captain America's page because he think there is a sock puppet which is if the sock puppet was messing up the characters Pages, the admins will undo their edits and he don't want to admit it and wanted to mess it up because he feels like it. Can we discuss it more at the QA or general discussion area?