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  • Buenas Undoniel. Queria pedirte si podes renombrar esta imagen

    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/File:Rogue_(Earth-11052)_005.jpg Que pertenece al primer episodio donde aparece. Y queria preguntarte que opinas de usar solo capturas de pantalla en las páginas de personajes de series animadas y películas live action.

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    • Hi!

      I don't speak Spanish (Google told me it was Spanish, sorry if it's Portuguese or else).

      Regarding the image name, it's done. On the other question, I'm not sure what answer you're expecting: as opposed to what other options (sketchbooks arts, promotional material...)? If so, I believe any picture can be valid (though pictures or screenshots seems the best to me), as long as it's not fan-art.

      Down here is the translation via google translate in Spanish, hope it's comprehensible.

      ¡Hola!

      No hablo español (Google me dijo que era español, perdón si es portugués o no).

      En cuanto al nombre de la imagen, está hecho. En la otra pregunta, no estoy seguro de qué respuesta espera: a diferencia de qué otras opciones (bocetos, artes, artes promocionales ...). Si es así, creo que cualquier imagen puede ser válida (aunque las imágenes o capturas de pantalla me parecen las mejores), siempre que no sea fan-art.

      Aquí abajo está la traducción a través de Google Translate en español, espero que sea comprensible.

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    • Me dijeron que hablabas español. Gracias por renombrar la imagen. :)

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  • I accidentally named a blog post of mine Chronicling the DC Multiverse when it should say "Chronicling the Marvel Multiverse". Can you help me?

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    • This better?

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    • It is. Thank you.

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  • Does the third Carnage symbiote count as a clone of the original Carnage symbiote? I personally don't think so since it's a completely seperate symbiote that just happened to be bonded to Cletus Kasady, but HipperMario readded the category after I removed it with the arguement that it does count since "clones are also separate characters who incorporated the DNA of the original".

    What's your take?

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    • Hi!

      I don't follow much of those deals, but yep, a clone is a being cloned from the DNA of another entity (or, in our terms, has at least part of those genes), and this one doesn't seems to have any of Carnage grafted to it, so far as its page go.

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    • Mmm. And what about the second Carnage symbiote, which is indicated to have been absorbed by the original?

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    • Sorry, I thought I had replied to your second message.

      I haven't read the issues involved, but from what I read on the page, it seems that the first Carnage absorbed the "second", as you said. The category would be valid if the second symbiote was the one who had absorbed the original and changed (the original possibly becoming its "genetic template", regarding on how the story is done and developed).

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    • None of the stories have gone into any depth regarding it, but I'll try to summarize:

      The original Carnage symbiote was presumed to have been killed off for good in Peter Parker: Spider-Man Vol 2 #10 when Venom ripped it off Cletus and ate it.

      In Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man #13, Blastaar opens a portal between Earth and the Negative Zone. Cletus, guided by the remnants of the original Carnage symbiote in his bloodstream, enters the portal pursued by Spider-Man - who somehow ends up wearing the costume of his counterpart from Spider-Man: Unlimited. Cletus joins Blastaar's army and in Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man #14 finds what the remnants of the Carnage symbiote were compelling him to seek out: a buried canister containing a black-and-red symbiote that bonds to him, turning him into Carnage again. In the end Spider-Man and Cletus return to Earth - with Spider-Man losing his high-tech costume but Cletus keeping the symbiote.

      The source of contention is that literally every single comic featuring Carnage that was released after that point - namely Venom vs. Carnage and Superior Carnage - completely ignores the events of Webspinners and treat the symbiote bonded to Cletus as the same one spawned by the Venom symbiote in Ryker's Island. While the IRL explanation for what happened is that the writers and editors either forgot about or chose to ignore Cletus having lost the symbiote and gotten a new one (and later comics established that simply ripping the Carnage symbiote off Cletus wouldn't be enough to kill it since it's merged with his blood), the lack of an in-universe explanation led to a fan-theory that the remnants of the original Carnage symbiote in Cletus' body had assimilated the Negative Zone symbiote to restore itself - which gained additional credence when Venom Inc. revealed through Mac Gargan that remnants of a symbiote in a former host's body could be "reactivated" through the application of additional symbiote biomass. While it's not outright stated in the comics that that's what happened with Cletus, no other in-universe explanation makes sense -- and when Cullen Bunn was asked for his two cents on the matter on his Tumblr he lent his support to that interpretation.

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  • Hey I'm going through the Character History Needed category and there are several characters from Conan stories that have been created in the past. As our current expert on this period. If I link you to them, would you be able to flesh out their histories?

    Thanks

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    • Hi!

      Yes, no problem, I just checked the list and a lot of the pages were on my to-do-list.

      Here's the list: {{safesubst:#dpl:

       |execandexit        = 
       |noresultsheader    = No Listings Found
       |eliminate          = all
       |allowcachedresults = true
       |format             = ,\n# %TITLE%,,
       |category           = Character History Needed
       |category           = Hyborian Age Characters
       |category           = 
       |offset             = 0
      

      }}

      And the partially overlaping Pre-Cataclysmic Age Characters: {{safesubst:#dpl:

       |execandexit        = 
       |noresultsheader    = No Listings Found
       |eliminate          = all
       |allowcachedresults = true
       |format             = ,\n# %TITLE%,,
       |category           = Character History Needed
       |category           = Pre-Cataclysmic Age Characters
       |category           = 
       |offset             = 0
      

      }}

      I will try to at least do a couple a day.

      (Edit: well that's strange, the multi-category search works in preview mode, but not on the posted message. I'll add it on my profile)

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    • Thanks

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    • Since you also added Pre-Cataclsym could I also suggest the Cthulhu Mythos Characters, which overlap with both

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  • Hi. I think it might be better to merge Captain America Corps and Captain Americorps in one page? It's look like the same thing.

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    • Hi!

      Well, it seems to me that the first need some restructuring to actually appear as the Disambiguation for the multiversal Captain America Corps, while the other is already focused on the Captain Americorps, both pages linking to the other one as it seems honest to assume those could be confused.

      I don't think merging them would be the right move, but they might some dusting.

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  • Hey, Before you start adding all the Dark Tower stuff to a universe, does it not fall under our general rule about not creating pages for creator owned content

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    • I'm guessing no appearance (even for subjects that can be treated here) are to be left around: I removed appearances tags to the races and species as well.

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    • On "N." #1 (as an example):

      • Some pages don't exist (in this case because the Marvel comics expands the story). Ideally, the interwiki link would go red but it doesn't like I expected. I added them anyway, that could be useful to the Stephen King wiki
      • In cases where there is no pages on the relevant wiki because it's not relevant pages (such as Pandora, California or United States of America, seemingly not useful in Stephen King mythos), I went to Wikipedia rather than redirecting to our own pages and disambiguation.
        • I think link to our wiki should be restricted to references to Marvel (no example here, but le.
        • Even for races? (the appearance tag being removed, the field has less relevancy, but should still be filled.
      • A few links I don't know what to do of them, such as "St. Ives": I haven't found a Stephen King or a real-life correspondance (I could have misinterpretated them). Unsure, I added a Stephen King link.

      And of course I removed the Ideaverse appearance, which was one of the thing I wanted to deal with when I started editing the page.

      I left a message on the Stephen King wiki to let them know of the material available on our wikia.

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  • In your opinion are all three of Marvel Illustrated: The Iliad Vol 1, Marvel Illustrated: The Odyssey Vol 1 and Trojan War Vol 1 all set in the same universe of Earth-616 or is their a reason the Illiad is currently the Ideaverse?

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    • Does the handbook make any mention of something specific from the illiad because if so I'm down with moving both the illiad and the Odyssey

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    • Well, it's an appendix about "Olympians" (mostly their descendants, involved in the Trojan War and Twelve Labors). The entries are pretty short, but yep, they mention it, a few entries are only about the Illiad/Trojan War. Aeneas' encounter with Thor is also mentioned. and many first appearances are from that issue.

      Looking closely, IIRC, none of the pics uses Trojan War (unlike Artemis' entry in Thor: Asgard's Avenger, who used a pic from Trojan War) but only Marvel Illustrated (it's hard to tell, it's a bunch of brown-haired guys drawn by the same artist in both issues).

      The various tales seems simply to focus on different moments of the war (Trojan War develops the travel from Aulis to Troy, when Marvel Illustrated focuses more on the stealing of Achilles' slave by Agamemnon, for example), with minor variations that are presumably errors and artistic license (same way flashback and recap sometimes variate from original appearances).

      Given the nature of those comics (retelling of classical tales, nothing original in the content save), I don't think we'll find anything more (except an author explicitly stating the comics is set or not in Earth-616) than having a comics' art used in handbooks, unfortunately.

      In fact, so far, it's Mystery Men Vol 1 that seems the most likely candidate to be ousted from Earth-616, due to Achilles being an artifact-powered being, instead of mystically-water enhanced.

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  • Hi Undoniel,

    I was wondering if you could offer some advice or help in improving the Synthezoids page?

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    • Understood, yeah I will give Cancerverse's entry of Avengers NOW! #1 a read and I will add the alternate spelling once I have confirmed. Thanks again

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    • Got it: Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z #2's glossary.

      Verbatim: "Synthozoid: Sophisticated android based on the works of Phineas T. Horton, allegedly designed to mimic all human functions, though most also include superhuman abilities."

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  • Hi there. In regards to image subjects, should characters who don't really appear in the image but appear in the image header/border be included in the image subjects list? Like in this image here, should Susan Storm and Jonathan Storm be counted as image subjects as well?

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  • Tesla was born in modern day Croatia, but his parents were Serbian.

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    • Hi! And he was Austrian by citizenship, and my edit reflects the handbook entry. If you find a reference to precise his Serbian nationality/and/or/ethnicity, you can add it on its page. I added it in the trivia section and left the category.

      I also started to complete Serbia's page, if you're interested.

      Also, please don't:

      • add citizenships manually, they are to be included in the template (I've added Serbian in the module that codes it).
      • add categories, as well as text, without references.
      • change the content of referenced text for something that isn't included in the reference.
      • limit the assumptions (such as if someone existed in the place that became part of another country, he isn't part of that nationality automatically)(it's possible I was the one that added him as a Croatian during an earlier, less careful, me). I haven't read the recent Scarlet Witch stories but that might apply to that. And if it has done retcon on previously-established citizenships, please mention it (with references) in the notes.
      • undo an edit, especially if it's to undo an un-edit for unreferenced stuff.
      • editwar, especially with an admin

      Thanks in advance, Have a good night/day

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    • Okay, thanks for explaining it to me. I'm new at editing fandoms.

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    • No problem.

      Other rules could include licensing your images (check another image to see how it looks), and respect an in-universe past-tense perspective in history sections, always reference your edits (I repeat myself but that's important), and understand a category's scope before using it on a page.

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    • Hi!

      I've undid your edit on Arthur Molekevic (Earth-1610), as it was based on an unreferenced information added before (the page doesn't has a reference for "Belgrave, Serbia").

      It seems that Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual #2 mentions the fact of Arthur being born in Belgrade, Yugoslavia. But even then, it doesn't make him a Serbian (as a citizenship) automatically: (apart from being an american,) he is maybe a serbian dual-citizen, or was yugoslavian but never serbian, and was born in Belgrade but from another citizenship (or even another nationality or ethnicity, or anything). My rule in this case is to focus on more-or-less explicit content (such as an handbook entry). More implicit or hinted stuff sometimes ends up being developed in notes or trivia (which can be linked from the relevant section, like here, the "see notes" in the "relatives"' section).

      It's still unclear how the nationalities/ethnicities are treated for modern-age peoples (the only example I see are the nationalities of UK, but IIRC, the debate had it a special case, but I can't found it back).

      It's preferable to:

      • Avoid building on on unreferenced or unverified content (as it is a way to gradually distort the actual material from the media).
      • Always read the issue you're using as a reference.

      The "nationality/ethnicity // citizenshio" thing bothers me, I think I will ask the admin team if anyone has any idea on dealing with this.

      Have a good night/day.

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