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Thanks to make the move, I will create in the page Deviants the following disambig: Undoniel (talk) 23:52, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

apes or homo erectus

Someone added that the Deviants (and by the same logic, the Eternals) had been developed by the celestials from homo erectus - it was changed back to apes. I realize, there's no reference for the homo erectus thing, but I don't think there's a reference for the oroginal species being apes either. Now, going by the evolutionary time framme, 1 million years ago (which is when it happened according to handbook references), homo erectus WAS the species of humans that was around, having developed aroundd 2 million bC. Considering both the Eternals and the Deviants are considered relatives of homo sapiens, that seems a lot more plausible thaan just having an unnamed (and just as unreferenced) species of apes as their genetic ancestors. Other opinions?--edkaufman (talk) 19:20, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

I had removed the mention of Homo erectus. From what I've collected for now, they are apes or ape-men: "Proto-People" and "Proto-Humans" (Eternals (Vol. 3) #1), "Apes" (Eternals #1), "Anthropoids", "Pre-Men", "Man-Apes" (What If? #23). That's why I've added those terms to the Ape-Men (but I haven't added much...), and as long as I haven't got another names.
Concerning the Homo species, I haven't studied human evolution for a few years now, so let's Wikipedia (I know, shame on me) be my voice: Homo antecessor is also available. But here the problem: Homo antecessor is supposed to be the precursor to Inhumans, and that, only twenty-five thousands years ago. Marvel isn't helping (or there was a retcon?).
Also, X-Men Giant-Size shows Eternals active in 2,7 millions.
So I tend to say: No speculation, only comics facts, even when comics facts are pretty incoherent, because speculating will only mess more the things we do know.
I've posted a message on your wall on that subject.

Undoniel (talk) 22:35, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

TEchnically speaking, the X-Men issues (X-Men (Vol. 3) #13 and the Giant-Size) show one Eternal, so it's a little iffy either way. The handbooks and previous comics references say aa million years. The Evolutionaries' species is given as an australopithecus, which at least makes sense with the 2.7 million years. Now what the Eternal was doing in that time period 1.7 million years before his species evolved, it's anyone's guess. The homo antecessor is of course a Marvel invention... So sure, I'll agree with you - which means the Eternals evolved 1 million years ago and that somehow one Eternal showed up 1.7 million years before that. Sigh.--edkaufman (talk) 21:23, June 2, 2015 (UTC)