Talk: Earth-199999

This earth is also the reality that will contain the forth coming thor movie and avengers movie.

Time Frame

Is it just me or does the lines at the donut shop about Tony not wamting a part in the Initatve in IM2 indicate that both iron man films take place before Incredible Hulk? Realised that tony's part in hulk was as a part of the avengers makes a bit of a Time dispute.

The bulk of Iron Man 2 has been confirmed to take place prior to Incredible Hulk, with the tail end taking place towards the beginning of Incredible Hulk. In fact, while he and Fury are talking at the end, you see a brief scene FROM Incredible Hulk on one of the monitors, and you see several other nods to it occurring at that time on those screens.

--GrnMarvl14 15:47, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Name

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but why is this Universe called "Earth-199999?" Where did anyone get that name? Sorryaboutthatchief 23:26, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Okay, now I've looked around the site a bit, I see that all realities are named like this. But, um, why? What's it mean? Sorryaboutthatchief 23:30, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Universes have, mostly, been revealed in Official Handbooks published by Marvel. The last listing included a link to a site run by the guys who maintain the Handbooks that's updated somewhat frequently and gives us any not listed in Handbooks. This particular one was listed one of the hardcover collections of Handbook entries (I forget which one. 4, maybe. Don't quite feel like looking for the exact one).

--GrnMarvl14 02:05, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Sorryaboutthatchief 02:55, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Film Universes

Why are all the other films in other universes than Iron Man/Iron Man 2, and The Incredible Hulk? T-888 19:51, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Many of them don't fit in well with the histories established in those films. And in some instances, they're set in different universes in case future films open up contradictions. Similar events might be occurring in each universe, but by separating the films, you lessen the risk of future events in one film (which, for the most part, are made by different studios with different directors and screenwriters and little mind towards what's occurred in other movies) completely throwing off events established in another film.

--GrnMarvl14 20:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Or to put it simpler, it's because Marvel says so. Chris3123 03:38, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I believe with the new Spider-Man and X-Men films they are slowly beuilding in to one film universe. That is at least what Stan Lee has said onece.....T-888 18:31, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Universe Timeline

I believe that viva las vegas isn't considered part of the film universe since it was probably cancelled and the writers once said that the comic wouldn't be set in any other specific universe besides its oun, i think that Iron Man 2: Public identity, the iron man 2 video game and that Iron Man/Hulk/Nick Fury one shot should be added too as they're supposed to be set in the cinematic universe The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adriano1995 (talk • contribs).

The VLV comic was originally designed to be part of the Iron Man movie series. Unless there are specific facts in it or the films which contradict each other, there's no real reason to separate them.

Those others sound like they should be in the same universe as well.

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 18:55, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

History

There has got to be a better way to organize this. I don't mind putting everything in chronological order, but having headers that switch back and forth between Hulk and Iron Man is off putting and makes the article look ugly.--Savageland 03:13, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Not to mention that the section headers have been formatted into links to make it even uglier. The tenses are inconsistent too. Personally, anything written under a heading that says "History" should be kept historical, and therefore written in the past tense. -- WarBlade 04:11, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed the tenses. There's that too. As is, it's basically three different film plot synopsises put together, which is interesting, and there's probably a place for it somewhere, but I'm not convined it's not what works best for an article about the History of this reality. But I'm not sure where to begin with a rewrite yet.--Savageland 04:39, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I feel that the solution is to simply 'zoom out'. The article needs to de-focus from the fiddly details of each movie and just summarise each one in one or two paragraphs. The involved descriptions of events can be left to the individual movies. -- WarBlade 11:35, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Now that Captain America is out, the "Shape" of this universe is much more clear. I feel confindent that I can do this history justice. I just have to find the time.--Savageland 20:19, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Transformers Movie Crossover

I wonder if they might possibly make a movie which has the Avengers teaming up with the Autobots to defeat the decepticons and the Masters of evil. if such a film is made, perhaps it may take place in an alternate reality where the events of both film series' storylines are interconnected with one another or something.

Even though Marvel made crossovers on the page, any connection on film is highly improbable. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is put to the screens from Marvel under the Disney banner now. Transformers is Hasbro > Dreamworks > Paramount (I think). So there is really no connection there. A Transformers/G.I. Joe crossover might be a possibility, given the companies involved, but even that is a bit of a longshot. -- WarBlade 22:47, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Viva Las Vegas

The Marvel appendix lists Viva Las Veas as taking place in Earth-80734. I'll be removing all of the Viva Las Vegas info from this page. --Spencerz 14:04, July 16, 2011 (UTC)