Part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe or not?
The showrunner Paul Zbyszewski had stated quite unambiguously that the series is not part of the MCU. While there are likely conflicting statements about the series from back in the day, they were made before Marvel Television was shut down and before the "Adventure into Fear" sub-brand became a stillborn franchise. Continuity plans can change throughout creative development and we should follow the latest official statement that we have.
Additionally, another user had added a reference about Easter Eggs to other MCU projects. Having finally finished the series, what is listed as "Easter Eggs <...> that specifically reference Iron Man 2 and Cloak & Dagger, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." are all the same thing - a single Roxxon logo featured prominently in one shot which doesn't really mean anything, because Roxxon is a general Marvel thing, not an MCU exclusive. HBK123 (talk) 18:04, October 25, 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with separating the series from the MCU. I don't see how it can be argued otherwise when Zbyszeweski were as straightforward as "It's not part of the MCU" gets.
--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 18:19, October 25, 2020 (UTC)
- This is a similar situation to what we did with The Gifted (TV series). We assumed it was part of the universe of X-Men movies (Earth-TRN414), until I brought up comments made by showrunner Matt Nix about how it was separate. I feel this situation is no different, so I'm for separating this as well with a new TRN designation.
- KalKent (Anton) (Earth-1218) (talk) 18:30, October 25, 2020 (UTC)
- I contest this decision. It can be argued otherwise. When a show literally has MCU references, and was developed to the end within the MCU, it's a part of the MCU. Further, Paul's claims evidently refer to the MCU as a brand rather than as a universe. Referring to the universe in that same article, Paul says that it's a corner of "the universe". What universe? It can only be 'the universe'. Especially since he says that the references are more targeted at "that Ghost Rider universe" which is quite literally the MCU. This show is still in the MCU, Paul just has a weird way of saying it where he refers to it as a branding label. There was a similar situation in the past with Agents of SHIELD seasons 5 and 6 and Ming-na Wen saying similar things. In both cases, they were referring to the MCU as a brand, and this is no different. That quote is only unambiguous if you ignore the rest of the article with it, frankly. That criteria of MCU is also what Disney+ will be using. Is Agent Carter not MCU because it's not part of the MCU brand? Is Agents of SHIELD not MCU because it's not part of the MCU brand? To answer the header question: Yeah, it's set in the MCU. That quote is a question of branding, evidently so with the rest of the article's context. You gotta read beyond the headlines folks. And for the record, the Roxxon logo is not the only reference. The San Francisco Tribune, Dallas Record, and New Orleans Gazette from Agents of SHIELD, Iron Man 2, and Cloak and Dagger also make appearances, and those are absolutely not general Marvel references, they are specific and originate from 199999. - Blogs • Message Wall • Guestbook 10:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)