Talk:Mutants (Homo superior)

Why is Night Thrasher listed as a mutant?--Batman ( Zakkoroen)^{The Batcave.Batcomputer.} 02:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Because the current Night Thrasher, Donyell Taylor is a mutant. Though, if it's linking to the Night Thrasher disambig, that should probably be fixed.

--GrnMarvl14 02:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Unnamed Mutants

The section called "Unnamed Mutants" is out of place in this page. It shows a (roughly drafted) list of depowered mutants, probably depowered mutants, dead mutants and mutants from alternate realities that have never been to Earth-616 (focusing on those whose names aren't known). Since the section above (List of Known Mutants) contains all the mutants currently alive and powered, I see two alternatives: 1) Just remove the "Unnamed Mutants" section; 2) Replace the "Unnamed Mutants" section with the following expanded sections: 2.1) Depowered Mutants; 2.2) "Mutants not confirmed powered neither depowered"; 2.3) Dead Mutants ...without adding a list of mutants from alternate realities.

Non Homo Superior Mutants

How should mutants given powers not from the x-gene, like spiderman be classified?

Spider-Man is not a mutant. He is a mutated human. And the classification of mutants Alpha through Omega has never been fully endorsed by Marvel. It's something the fans have read in the comics once or twice and run with.  :)

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 05:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Classification

Does this section have any basis in canon? Any sources or references to back it up? At all? I have never seen Alpha or Beta mutants defined in detail in continuity, and I've never even heard of "Zeta Mutants" or this other stuff (besides Omegas). Didn't this come up over a year ago, and this classification system was traced to some guy's random unsourced webpage? I think this classification system is totally fan-made, spawned by the internet. --Mutant Y 14:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

No, this section is not cannon at all. In a handful of Marvel books, they mention 'Omega' mutants, and the rest was made up by fans in the UK. It's been removed and put back several times since fans are so adamant about this being an official ranking system. Marvel has never endorsed the system whatsoever, and has never explained what constitutes an Omega class mutant.

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 16:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

So, its okay to kill it on site? ;) I've never understood the system at all anyway and no one who makes these kinds of edits has ever made any attempt to explain the system to the rest of us that I'm aware of.--Max 16:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Caterory

First, we should categorize mutants by their ow realities e.g. Category:Mutant (Earth-xxx), is it a good idea?

If so I'll start doing this, if not I'll start too.

Second, there are some characters, who aren't mutants, e.g. Sub-Mariner, are you going to do something with this, or I have to do this?

SF (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 21:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Namor IS a mutant, actually. It's LONG been said that he was one (the wings on his ankles are what makes him a mutant, something he CLEARLY didn't inherit from either of his parents), as are Namorita and Namora. It was even restated in the first issue of House of M, as Kitty Pryde was quizzing a classroom of kids. Again...it's the wings. And what would dividing the mutants by reality accomplish that isn't already accomplished by the reality categories they have and the earth designations in their names?

--GrnMarvl14 16:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I think He is a hybrid of Atlantean and Human, and this is a resoult, maybe because of it he is a mutant, but nevermind. What about others and categorization?

It'd be easier to look for mutants coming from alternate less-known realities.

Couldn't you just look for them by those reality numbers? Most alternate reality mutants are either counterparts of well-known Earth-616 characters or are from stories that focus on mutants.

--GrnMarvl14 22:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Chimera is not a proven mutant, Mysterio is definitely not a mutant, at this point, Madelyne Pryor is deceased, Purple Man is a mutate, not a mutant, Shinobi Shaw is dead (proven, since he was resurrected by the transmode virus).::::--Ferroboy 09:04, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Race Template

Should this article use the template?

03:55, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I personally thought about that in the past, but was unable to figure out how the sections of this page would really work in that template. It's kinda pretty the way it is, though I'd love to see everything properly templated. Are mutants an actual official race?

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 23:25, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in the real world, I think there's just 'the human race' - all this caucasian/negroid/mongoloid stuff is nonsense. But with the loose way we use 'race' in comics, I think they are. I'll take a crack at templating it, and if it don't work, we revert

01:10, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't get the wiki table thing to work in the template, so it's at the end. Maybe you can work your magic.

01:19, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Should be all in there now. :)

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 16:13, February 12, 2010 (UTC)