Mutant Levels

I still have not seen ANY concrete evidence of the mutant levels. Someone wrote in the forums that they read "somewhere" about the levels of mutants and we are establishing a precedence on whether they are this level or not. I don't want to call out individual's edits and say they are wrong, cause I truly don't know whether they are or not. What I do think is that because of this "questioning" of the statuses, we should either hold on changing more without some sort of citation...aka, I read this [HERE] and you can refer to this citation by looking at this reference. Doing this will solidify the statement of the mutant status as well as prove to doubters, like me, that this is a valid or good way to blindly base "factual" info off presumptions. Done with the ranting... --M1shawhan 22:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Jay Guthrie

If he did in fact legally change his name to Jay, then this page should be Jay Guthrie (Earth-616), correct? Like how Unus legally changed his name to Gunther Bain from Angelo Unuscione, or how Magneto (albeit, unconfirmed) changed his name from Max Eisenhardt to Erik Lehnsherr. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 05:34, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Do we know that's for real? I added a citation note to that reference.--edkaufman (talk) 08:03, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
I'll look it up, but I am pretty sure.. Its either in Uncanny X-Men #441, X-Men Vol 2 #157 - X-Men Vol 2 #165, or New X-Men Vol 2 at the beginningish.. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 19:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
It's in his Handbook entries, if nothing else. There are a few real names that we have different due to various things that I've never bothered to correct due to either not caring enough about the change, not caring enough about the name, or just...not caring.
--GrnMarvl14 19:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
I checked the latest handbook entry. It merely says "he nicknamed himself Jay to leave his old life behind", nothing about legally changing his name.--edkaufman (talk) 22:25, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, yeah, you're right. THAT must have been why I didn't think to try and change it.
--GrnMarvl14 23:36, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I'll move the tags.. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 00:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
All I could find is that the first time he uses Jay is New X-Men Vol 2 #1. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 22:38, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


Do we have a reference that Joshua Guthrie was, in fact, a cheyarafim? Or is it just an assumption based on the shape of his wings? Metanetwork (talk) 22:00, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

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