Talk: Loki Laufeyson (Earth-616)

Does anyone have any idea about the name of Loki's magic sword? I have not seen anything in the comics about it, but in the Norse Mythology, there is a sword Called "Laevateinn" its name means "wounding wand", saying that Loki's sword is also a wand. Alternately this sword is also supposed to be Frey's magic sword which could fight on its own. This site on Wikipedia also asks for "attention from an expert on the subject". So it is unclear weather this is actually the name for Frey's magic sword or not. Any help with this question I would appreciate.

References

--ThorZero 14:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Female Loki

Should Loki be referred to as female, or should male/female be more correct?

Loki is male, actually. He has stolen the body of Sif, and hides his true form. Chadlupkes 16:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up...I thought he just woke up one day a woman!! Made reading Thor a little awkward... --M1shawhan 00:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually currently Loki CAN and does transform into both and is biologically female when he is in female form. Thor and Loki Original Sin issu 5 Odin refers to Thor, Angela and Loki as "My Son, my daughter and my child who is both." - Nightling

That's a different Loki. I believe you are referring to Ikol. This Loki is male - Valkyrieofbobatea

Venus #6

Should we leave his creators as Stan and Jack, or should we change them to whoever wrote/pencilled the Loki story in Venus #6 (presuming that IS the same Loki)? Thanos6 07:46, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's Loki either way. I'd leave it as Stan and Jack because they were responsible for the current incarnation, and the inclusion of versions prior to the one they created is more or less just retconning past incarnations for the sake of completeness (and I'd be a bit surprised if it wasn't Lee and/or Kirby, either way).

--GrnMarvl14 02:25, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Marvel's main page made a list of the 10 favorite heroes during 2011 and Loki made the list at number 6. So should we change his alignment to good? neutral?

I honestly wouldn't mind switching him to good but right now there is someone who keeps changing the alignment to good because of the Axis storyline and that's where they are making a huge mistake because that version of Loki is far from good. He just thinks he is. He was actually good before the Axis plot started. -Nightling

Shouldn't Agent of Asgard get his own page?

Since we have the return of the original, and it is known that the teen-looking version is merely a copy, like Kid Loki (who has his own separate page)... --KurtW95 (talk) 00:29, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure Old Loki is the original Loki, (and there's nothing that proves that Teen Loki is not the real Loki). Plus, Al Ewing said we'll discover the true nature of Old Loki in AoA #5.

--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 17:38, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, since 5 confirmed that it's the old Loki and Teen Loki is a copy, can we make him a separate page now? --KurtW95 (talk) 12:55, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Not quite. There is only one Loki soul in 616. He was born again, yes, but the only thing he gained from Ikol (who wasn't even real to begin with) were his own memories. It's convoluted but really the "Death" of kid loki was the death of his own innocence in remembering his own past.

Also note, despite what many fan girls think, Agent of Asgard Loki is not a teenager. He has been called adult several times now and "a man" in the box narration and by Thor himself. Not once is he ever called a teenager in that form. - Nightling

KurtW95 was talking about this Old Loki, not pre-JiM Old Loki. This new version of Old Loki from the future is a different person from Earth-616 Loki.

And AoA Loki might not be a teenager, but he's not an adult-adult. He's probably a young adult. In his early twenties (physically, of course).

--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 19:14, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Quote

Since Loki's quote no longer applies to this Loki, but to the Ikol version as explained in Loki: Agent of Asgard #13, what should be his new quote on this page? Since that one is not him.GZilla311 (talk) 22:54, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to delete/change this quote when I separated the pages. I guess any good quote by Loki-Loki is okay.

--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 23:49, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Perfectly reasonable mistake. Unfortunately, I don't know Loki-Loki that well. Any ideas?GZilla311 (talk) 23:53, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Any quote from his Quote page that can represent his character well?

--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 23:58, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Plagiarism

As indicated on the Talk:Loki Laufeyson (Kid Loki) (Earth-616) by Hufflepuffgirl28, the Equipment section (and potentially more of the article), is plagiarized from angelfire.com as the version of their page from June 2008 includes text added here in June 2009. --Annabell (talk) 22:05, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Gender

I don't know why my edit keeps getting removed but as far as I know this version of Loki is male. He's not genderfluid. Ikol is the one who is genderfluid. - Valkyrieofbobatea

I would assume it's because the original Loki spent time as a woman and can freely shift genders using magic -- which is in keeping with Norse mythology where he turned into a mare and gave birth to Sleipnir, and took on the form of an old woman to prevent Baldr from being resurrected. And "Ikol" Loki is the result of the original Loki's consciousness taking over the body of his reincarnation. Ascha'Vovina (talk) 21:30, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

You bring out some good points. However, assuming that you are referring to the time Loki spent in Sif's body, I don't see how that would make him genderfluid, comparing it with what the identity actually mean (at least in our modern world). Same with him being a shapeshifter and shapeshifting into a mare (again, comparing it with what genderfluid means in todays world). Also can you explain what you mean by Loki's consciousness? English is not my first language so I would like to better understand what you mean by it. - Valkyrieofbobatea

According to the article, following the events of Ragnarok Loki was resurrected as a woman in Thor (Vol. 3) #5 and stayed that way for a number of years before returning to a male form, and the article makes no mention of Loki taking over Sif's body so I don't know if that's what you're referring to or not. As for the reincarnation situation... Loki was killed by the Void during Siege, but due to a bargain he made with Hela he was reincarnated as "Kid Loki" instead of being sent to Hel. Kid Loki decided to leave behind his past as a supervillain and redeem himself, but encountered an echo of the original Loki's consciousness - a copy of his mind - that was disgusted by his desire for redemption. Kid Loki turned the original Loki's pseudo-ghost into a raven he mockingly called "Ikol", but Ikol was able to take over Kid Loki's body. TLDR the current Loki is essentially a copy of the original Loki's mind in Kid Loki's body. Ascha'Vovina (talk) 22:31, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Before I weigh in, a small correction. Ikol is not the original Loki's mind, he's a copy. I agree with Valkyrieofbobatea. Shapeshifting doesn't equate genderfluidity. For instance, Mystique's article lists her gender as female.
--ADour (talk) 01:41, 17 February 2022 (UTC)