Talk:Sage (Earth-616)

Error

Sage can't control machines. what allows her to interface with computers and machines is her goggles. Tsl3161991 (talk) 01:35, 20 September 2010

Source of confusion

This (rather ridiculous) re-interpretation of Sage's mutant ability started in Grant Morrison's controversial New X-Men run. "Do that thing you do and send an e-mail with your mind, Sage..."

Chris Claremont appeared to try to set the record straight throughout the rest of X-Treme X-Men and into Uncanny X-Men where it was stated that she requires technology (that she creates) to obtain information, just like the rest of us do.

Unfortunately, Claremont also started using the term "Cyberpath" for X-Treme X-Men issues 31 through 46. The term was dropped for the rest of her appearances in comics. Likely he or his editor discovered the term was already understood to mean "control computers", not "think like a computer". Psicraft (talk) 12:03, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Real Name

I feel I should point out that her entry in Volume 9 of the hardcover Handbooks lists her real name as "unrevealed" (and "Tessa" as an alias). I edited the page to that extent, but felt I should mention it here...in case anyone cares. --GrnMarvl14 01:09, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

How do you feel about moving her to 'Sage (Earth-616)'?

— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 04:43, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. Though, honestly, I think what we have now works fine. If you'd prefer the move, then be my guest, but I worry about there being other Sages we'd need to worry about.

--GrnMarvl14

Revert power grid

I think it's probably time to revert her power grid? I don't think former powers are relevant.

There's also the matter that she's listed as having Super-Genius Intelligence but the power grid implies that only happened temporarily. Which is it? Psicraft (talk) 14:56, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Power Channeling

In X-Treme X-Men Vol 1 44 and Uncanny X-Men Vol 1 447, we have seen Sage channel power from Bishop into other mutants, apparently a trick learnt from Charles Xavier against "alien invaders". Does anyone have a reference for this original incident? Psicraft (talk) 14:13, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Opening paragraphs revisited

The silent scene in Sage's flashback (X-Treme X-Men #44) has a lot of information packed into it.

Warning! Discussion of a rape scene ahead (kind-of)

The interpretation as per The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (2004) was:

There, she found the powerful telepathic mutant named Charles Xavier who had been trapped under a massive stone block by the alien being named Lucifer. Initially wary of him, Tessa rescued the critically injured mutant and, on the trek back to civilization, the pair encountered a United Nations aid convoy that was being attacked by bandits. Tessa drove off the attackers and then avenged the death of one young U.N. worker by brutally murdering the bandit that had raped and killed her.

Because the text on the page for Sage was a direct copy of the text, it obviously needed to be rewritten because plagiarism is bad. However, this is an interpretation of the events that may or may not be the only valid interpretation.

I've had this ticking over in my head looking for holes, trying to establish that the man Sage killed at the time was the one responsible for the woman's death so I could confidently rewrite the passage with the same interpretation.

Issues to address here though:

• Was the bandit she killed the same bandit responsible for the act?
  • He's wearing the same jacket as the woman, but it's buttoned with only a single button. It suggests he stole it from a victim, but obviously not the woman as she was still wearing hers. So this may not indicate it's anything but a trophy.
  • There's blood on his combat jacket, but as all the blood stains are coloured black, it's not possible to determine if it's his blood from when he got shot by Sage, or from the woman, so nothing definitive there.
  • He doesn't seem to be that nearby when he attacks Sage.
  • Do the people writing the The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe get to read Claremont's scripts? If they do, then the book is essentially first-hand information, rather than interpretation from the final comic.

I think it's quite possible young Sage took her time killing the man for being part of the attacking group of which a member raped and killed the woman, even if he wasn't the rapist. She most likely killed the rapist with a single shot from the ridge above long before she found out what had happened to the woman.

Psicraft (talk) 07:08, October 28, 2018 (UTC)