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I don't really see why X-Factor and X-Factor Investigations should be merged. Aside from a few members, there's absolutely no commonality. In fact, I still don't understand why the two original X-Factor teams are treated as one, when there was no connection aside from name and the general "X" connection. All three of these X-Factors have different motivations, different headquarters, different origins, and followed different paths. If we have separate pages for Avengers West Coast and Avengers, we certainly should have different pages for the X-Factors. Even the X-Treme Sanctions Executive team has more in common with the X-Men than these three have with one another.

GrnMarvl14 22:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Aside from the 2 original X-Factor's being merged...I completely agree with this thought. X-Factor Investigations is completely different than that of "X-Factor". The 2 original X-Factors however were brought together by government "sanctions" and the only real difference between these 2 is headquarters and members. The original members were just re-vamped since the latter team was brought about after the Muir Island Saga and Val Cooper's hand in that fiasco. Really it was just a shifting of the teams and I think that those are technically the same, much like the X-Men transitioned from 1 team, to split blue/gold teams, and then back to 1 team. The X-Factor Investigations merge, however, is like saying X-Force is the same as X-Statix. No merge necessary on this one is my 2 cents. --M1shawhan 23:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
If X-Factor Investigations uses the name 'X-Factor' without the investigations part, couldn't we move that page to 'X-Factor (Investigations) (Earth-616)' for clarity? By our naming conventions, if three characters have the same name, then something is followed by the same name in each case that clarifies which one is being talked about. I suppose that if the Investigations team's "Birth Name" is still X-Factor Investigations, than the name should be 'X-Factor Investigations (Earth-616)', but if they "legally changed" their name to 'X-Factor', then we should use the parenthesis. Wouldn't we need the parenthesis for the first two teams if they should have separate articles? I understand the second incarnation was a revamp of the original team, but it seems like we're still talking about two different teams with the same exact official name. It's really not like all the different teams of X-Men of Earth-616 should be in the same team article either. Didn't Rogue recently have her own team that could be called 'X-Men (Earth-616)' just like the first class of X-Men?
--Your Friendly Neighborhood Peteparker (talkcontribsemail) 19:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not completely against leaving the original two X-Factors together (they seem to be lumped together enough that I won't put up any real fight). My main bone of contention is with throwing X-Factor Investigations in. And, technically, I think X-Factor Investigations is still the official name. X-Factor is just used as the comic title itself, and possibly canonically as just a shortened name (though I can't think of any examples off the top of my head). Their entry in the back of Messiah Complex has Cyclops referring to them with the "Investigations" still thrown in. And separate teams that are still part of the larger group (like the three X-Men teams we have now) should certainly still all be under the same title, but again, the Investigations have little in common with the original, and in-continuity, it was only changed to X-Factor (from XXX) because Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, and Madrox had all joined together, and it was meant as a playful reference to their old team.
GrnMarvl14 02:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I oppose merging X-Factor Investigations with X-Factor. The current book is not about super-heroes. Yes, they are super-heroes, but they work in a private detective agency, one that was formerly called XXX Investigations.

Ferroboy 03:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I take that as Nay's winning...umm...correct me if I am wrong. Taking off the tags unless there is a valid reason given here as to why it needs to still be merged. --M1shawhan 01:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Merging/Moving/Etc

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. I think there should be three:

  • X-Factor (X-Terminators??) (Earth-616)
  • X-Factor (US Government) (Earth-616)
  • X-Factor Investigations (Earth-616)

Look at the Defenders page and you'll see that's broken down quite significantly, allow you to reference each version. Not saying these names are ideal, just something I thought up when I was tired. --Edlicious 01:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I like this idea. I'm not that crazy about shoving the Cyclops, Jean, etc. team on the same page as the Havok, Polaris, etc. team as it currently stands.--Stature 02:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I still agree with this breakdown...we would have to change the names though. The only "problem" that I see with this line of thought though is the use of not-so-easily-significant revisions of the teams. Such as, Brotherhood of Evil Mutants...when should it be considered a recreation of a new team? New leaders should be the determining factor? I think teams like X-Factor are easier to distinguish since they were almost complete revamps of the previous members and you could say this is X-Factor 1, X-Factor 2, X-Factor 3...etc. --M1shawhan 14:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
As long as we don't actually call the teams 'X-Factor 1', 'X-Factor 2', and 'X-Factor 3'. Hahaha.
--Nathan Elliott (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I dunno...I actually like the sound of X-Factor 3. That, and they're a kick-butt team. Don't mess with those guys from X-Factor 3!! ;) --M1shawhan 23:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
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