So I just read the current 2nd Squadron Supreme chapter today and it seems that now just like her Supreme Power alternate, she needs to feed on people to stay young, I've read the Earth-712 books recently and she didn't seem to have this issue there but apparently she does now.

Also I'm not sure she still has her shield to fly, she seems to be using a sword and she needed Doctor Spectrum help to fly last time she had to in Avengers Vol 6 0.

SunGodKizaru (talk) 17:04, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to be annoying but did somone else read the book? I would like to know people opinions on what to do with her powers, should we remove flight and add something similar to her Supreme Power version in terms of her aging process, or modify the text on extended longetivity to reflect what she did in the most recent chapter? SunGodKizaru (talk) 22:21, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
I think it's okay with adding her dependance on people in her article, and clarify in the notes section that she didn't display this characteristic until now. A similar procedure could be done regarding her flight.
--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 22:31, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
Ok I'll add it later then(I'll ask for a grammar check) and yeah the flight seems to be gone but I guess we don't know for sure, I said it mainly because of her needing Dr. Spectrum help to fly her in the first chapter.SunGodKizaru (talk) 22:33, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Eye Beams

Ok, I think this page has had enough of the edit reversion to last the rest of it's life. I'm rewriting the section about eye beams to explain the situation, and I'm locking the page for awhile. We're just going to have to have a compromise here.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 15:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

It's about this Article:

during "Atlantis Attacks" Gruenwald wrote a Back-up Story about the History of the Serpent Crown in which was revealed, that Zarda used the Debussy Alias when Set took over the US-President of Earth-712 [2]

How can I do a Footnote? I don't know the exact Issue of that Back-up Story. The Info is from Stuart Vandal via OHOTMU-Forums.

The old Squadron Supreme entry had Power Princess as a secretary named Claire Debussy, but the Squadron Supreme mini series established her as Zarda Shelton. This was explained during Atlantis Attacks, when a back-up story about the history of the Serpent Crown showed that when Set took over her world's US president, Zarda went undercover using the Debussy alias.

Beast of Averoigne 08:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

<ref>Your footnote</ref> Or you could just paste the info in the section that says Notes or Trivia. Cheers!--Max 08:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Info is in the Trivia (or Notes, don't remember now :D). Not knowing the exact Issue is kinda sourceless however. ;)

Thanks for the Hint! :)

Beast of Averoigne 09:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


I know that in Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe, Zarda refers to the transparent shield that she carries as a "Flying Shield" and is never seen flying without it. I'm basically wondering whether or not Zarda can actually fly without it, because she did fly without it when she fought against her Supreme Power Counterpart.


For the second footnote, ref and citation to Stuart Vandal's statements are unnecessary; all that information is contained in Avengers West Coast Annual #4, cited in the note already.

For the first footnote, no other Utopians have ever been seen. Therefore, we can't comment on whether or not they discovered Terrigenesis or if they all had the same powers. We don't have that information, one way or another. Monolith616 (talk) 18:43, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

My bad, I thought you had deleted the Utopians category. But I don't consider that handbooks writer's statement are unnecessary (but I should see the issue first).
Also, when you correct, don't simply undo. I corrected links here there. And yep, the second footnote with Stuart Vandal was indeed useless.
You have the ref for her being an Utopian=~Inhuman ? (I am redoing the Inhumans, Eternals, and other stuff.

Undoniel (talk) 19:08, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I hit Undo because there was a broken link somewhere messing up the page between edits. I couldn't find where it was, so I just reverted it back to last good format as a Plan B.
And I think SV's statement that she's an Inhuman is unnecessary (or at least redundant) if we can provide a Handbook or comic source that says the same thing. I'll check tonight -- it either comes from her description of Utopia from SS#1, the SS entry from the OHOTMU Deluxe Edition, her own entry from Update '89, or a combination of the three. Monolith616 (talk) 19:17, April 17, 2015 (UTC)
Yep, I concur with that handbook before handbook writer's statement thing. Undoniel (talk) 19:43, April 17, 2015 (UTC)


Given that she never married Howard Shelton (they were common law), she never would have adopted his last name. Since she had no maiden name, shouldn't this profile be changed to "Zarda (Earth-712)?" Ditto for Earth-1121 and Earth-13034 (and any others I've missed).

Edlicious (talk) 08:53, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

You make a strong argument and the older handbooks that I had on hand to check would support simply the first name (I don't have Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z #9 to check that particular entry); however, the recent ongoing series does use the surname, as seen here. Anyway, I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't necessarily be shortened, merely that there is current, in-universe evidence to support the existing name as well. -- Annabell (talk) 10:06, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a bit challenging. In All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update Vol 1 3 they do refer to her as "Zarda Shelton" but also list that she was married (not common law). Then, over at the official Marvel profile, she's Zarda (and that Howard was her common law husband). My guess is someone working on OHTMU misremembered and thought she was legally married to Howard.
Regardless, if she had no last name before "becoming a Shelton," I'd argue that her profile should be under just "Zarda." There may be no easy answer, of ourse Edlicious (talk) 13:39, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and in the OHTMU entry text, they do clarify that Howard was common law. Edlicious (talk) 13:41, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
It should be noted that Universe isn't considered "official" by even Marvel itself, it's just another online wiki that anyone can join and edit. In the instance of Zarda's entry, it was entirely written by a single user six-and-a-half years ago and there's no evidence anybody else bothered to verify it nor has anyone else ever contributed to it. -- Annabell (talk) 20:51, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
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