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  • so.............who would win in a fight between these two marvel icons? pls post your vote for either hero and pls feel free to post a strategy for ur hero's way to victory. My vote is neutral, the way i see it, it could go either way.
    Anthony Stark (Earth-199999) with Iron Man Armor MK VII (Earth-199999) from Marvel's The Avengers 002 (cut)

    IRON MAN!!!!!!

    Steven Rogers (Earth-199999) from Captain America The Winter Soldier poster 001

    CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!

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    • this is one of the most clichéd battles in marvel. still, Tony had a better chance before he destroyed his suits

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    • SANDY skeleton 2099 wrote: this is one of the most clichéd battles in marvel. still, Tony had a better chance before he destroyed his suits

      Dude thats the movie storyline :/ he still has the suits in the comics

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    • And he'll have some suits in Age of Ultron

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    • They have fought multiple times comic wise

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote:

      SANDY skeleton 2099 wrote: this is one of the most clichéd battles in marvel. still, Tony had a better chance before he destroyed his suits

      Dude thats the movie storyline :/ he still has the suits in the comics

      I was confused because the images were from the movies.

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    • I think it would be an even match because Iron man could fly, and he has all the lasers and missiles and Shtuff, but Cap could just block every attack and throw his shield at Tony.

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    • Cap is one of those guys tht takes advantage of his surroundings. There r so many scenarios it's impossible to say

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    • Captain America has no chance. IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW!

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    • Epicportlemaster101 wrote: Captain America has no chance. IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW!

      Captain America fought Satan. How does he have no chance?

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    • o.o


      wow

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    • Zakor1138 wrote:

      Epicportlemaster101 wrote: Captain America has no chance. IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW!

      Captain America fought Satan. How does he have no chance?

      Well sir we're talking about a guy on steroids with a un breakable Bommarang Sheild Versus a Guy in a nearly Indestructible suit of Armor who can fly shoot lasers out of his hands and a super huge lazer out of his chest,can fire a missile that can destroy a similar armour to his that's 3 times his armours size.

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    • Indestructible... except when it isn't. Also, Cap has more combat experience, I mean, he was in WWII. The dude can fight.

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    • but when your fist punches metal, your fist will tend to break :l

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: but when your fist punches metal, your fist will tend to break :l

      Vibranium Shield.

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    • It could go either way in the end

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    • I still think iron man could win espeacialy if he uses the SKIN armor ( an armor made of adamantium) bye bye, steve

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: I still think iron man could win espeacialy if he uses the SKIN armor ( an armor made of adamantium) bye bye, steve

      Yeah, have Iron Man kill Captain America. That'll go over well in the superhero community.

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    • I KNOW RIGHT :D

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    • sorry for caps ( not sure if it was against the rules )

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    • Not sure if serious, or sarcastic.

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    • Tony Stark Alienating himself from other heroes, thats a bold new storyline, marvel get on it... wait a minute.

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    • o.O

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    • guys guys, think about this for a second, first we have a man with a large collection of nearly unbreakable armors that have taken tank shells and fought a thunder god before, and then his oppenent, -_- is a man with a glorified trash can lid it shouldnt be that hard to decide that Iron Man would probably win

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    • Yes

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: guys guys, think about this for a second, first we have a man with a large collection of nearly unbreakable armors that have taken tank shells and fought a thunder god before, and then his oppenent, -_- is a man with a glorified trash can lid it shouldnt be that hard to decide that Iron Man would probably win

      You started this discussion, and yet you constantly force your opinion down our throats. Why even discuss it? It's clear you think Iron Man would destroy Cap, why do you want our opinions if you are just going to say that we are wrong if we choose Cap?

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    • Your constantly shoving he fact that ou think cap would win down our throats.And he wants to know what everyone else's opinions are.

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    • Epicportlemaster101 wrote: Your constantly shoving he fact that ou think cap would win down our throats.And he wants to know what everyone else's opinions are.

      I never said Cap would win. I just said you don't give him enough credit. Don't make up things I didn't say.

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    • Anyone could win in the end it fair to say that each of them have a good shot at winning

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    • I saw this one movie called iron man Captain America: Heroes united which changed my perspective but I still think Tony would win

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    • lol

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    • but the question is..... where is the billy-goat!?

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    • Iron man still will win

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: Iron man still will win

      Clearly not trying to shove it down our throats. /sarcasm

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    • The fight between Tony and Steve will have to wait in the mainstream Marvel Universe in till Steve regains his powers (Most likely around the time Captain America 3 rolls around, Avengers Age of Ultron just seems to soon).

      In till then Tony can duke it out with Sam.

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    • who is sam?

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    • I am a tounge and Im out to get you I am a tounge and I want to lick you

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: who is sam?

      Sam Wilson. The Falcon. And current Captain America.

      Beaverboy777 wrote: I am a tounge and Im out to get you I am a tounge and I want to lick you

      What does this have to do with anything?

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    • Zakor1138 wrote:

      Beaverboy777 wrote: who is sam?

      Sam Wilson. The Falcon. And current Captain America.

      Beaverboy777 wrote: I am a tounge and Im out to get you I am a tounge and I want to lick you

      What does this have to do with anything?

      oh you mean falcon........... and the tounge thing is an inside joke with me and by best friend brycen lol

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    • This fight appalls me. Iron Man would destroy Captain America. If we are talking about a straight up fight in which the winner is the one who kills his opponent then Iron Man would win right away. First of all Iron Man has enough strength to lift 100+ tons and at one point lifter a 16,000 ton nuclear warhead. The heaviest thing Captain America can lift is 1,000 pounds. That is a huge difference. In the speed department Iron Man still beats Captain America; at max flight he can fly faster than mach ten!!! His velocity is at five miles per second! Cap wouldn't be able to hit him. In durability Iron Man still wins, his energy shields and his armor allow him to survive nuclear blasts, rockets, torpedo, and high caliber bullets. A hit from cap would not effect him at all. Also if Captain throws his shield, Iron Man could catch it (due to faster reflexes). Don't get me started on energy projection, obviously Iron Man crushes that. Now in terms of intelligence and using the environment, obviously Iron Man since he can access satellites and see everything around him with his x-ray vision(see extremist). In terms of fighting Iron Man would dodge/withstand every hit from Cap and one full powered punch/repulser ray would drill a hole in Cap. Now why has Iron Man not killed Cap before? He hasn't because he wasn't trying to kill him, just arrest him.

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    • by the way lets say SOMEHOW cap gets tony out of the suit tony still would most likely win because of his healing factor from the extremis virus and he still has the RT node in his chest

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    • Epicportlemaster101 wrote:

      Zakor1138 wrote:

      Epicportlemaster101 wrote: Captain America has no chance. IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW! IRON MAN FTW!

      Captain America fought Satan. How does he have no chance?

      Well sir we're talking about a guy on steroids with a un breakable Bommarang Sheild Versus a Guy in a nearly Indestructible suit of Armor who can fly shoot lasers out of his hands and a super huge lazer out of his chest,can fire a missile that can destroy a similar armour to his that's 3 times his armours size.

      I think epicportlemaster has summarized this fight the way it aught to be

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    • Thank you

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    • :D
      
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    • this topic will never close EVER!

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: this topic will never close EVER!

      Don't test me. There is a reason why "Vs." topics are not allowed on various forums.

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    • what why?

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    • Because some people keep saying one character would win, but makes it seem the other has no chance, even though they have done incredible things. The fanboys who keep telling others they're wrong, and start fights. That's what's going on here.

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    • ppl are entitled to their opinion i wanted to see their side of this conversation

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: ppl are entitled to their opinion i wanted to see their side of this conversation

      But rubbing your opinions in others faces is not something that people should do.

      Also, people using false statements on the one they think would lose tends to be infuriating.

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    • noone was rubbing it in anyones faces exept for epicportlemaster saying iron man ftw 50000 times

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    • I say we close this as anyone could win in the fight, before we spark a wiki civil war

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    • no we can never close this

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    • Oh god this is the "Is Batman an Atheist" question on the DC wiki all over again

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    • hahahahahahaha I was on that thread (he isnt an atheist)

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: noone was rubbing it in anyones faces exept for epicportlemaster saying iron man ftw 50000 times

      Oh Realy have you even read the comments you've posted?

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    • name one that was rubbing in in their faces

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: guys guys, think about this for a second, first we have a man with a large collection of nearly unbreakable armors that have taken tank shells and fought a thunder god before, and then his oppenent, -_- is a man with a glorified trash can lid it shouldnt be that hard to decide that Iron Man would probably win

      A kinda that one.

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    • What did u remove

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    • In one of the posts he said that he was switching to cap and in the other he said jk

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    • oh i saw that yesterday

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    • If Iron Man didn't have his armor he would be crushed by Steve Rogers. Even with the 25 pounds of dead weight provided by his armor, Iron Man would be crushed. He has barely any natural fighting ability, just brains, while Cap has both Brains and Braun which complement each other perfectly. Before he was Captain America, Steve was an incredible strategist. Iron Man can shoot repulsers, BIG WHOOP! Even if they switched defenses (Tony Stark with the shield & Cap with the armor), Cap would still be able to figure the armor's tech out before Tony could figure out how to throw the shield, let alone having it come back. Therefore, Captain America WINS!

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    • Bumblebee073 wrote: If Iron Man didn't have his armor he would be crushed by Steve Rogers. Even with the 25 pounds of dead weight provided by his armor, Iron Man would be crushed. He has barely any natural fighting ability, just brains, while Cap has both Brains and Braun which complement each other perfectly. Before he was Captain America, Steve was an incredible strategist. Iron Man can shoot repulsers, BIG WHOOP! Even if they switched defenses (Tony Stark with the shield & Cap with the armor), Cap would still be able to figure the armor's tech out before Tony could figure out how to throw the shield, let alone having it come back. Therefore, Captain America WINS!

      Are you defining which character wins in a brawl by doing anything but making them go against each other in their normal ways?

      It's like "Who would win, Hawkeye or Black Widow? Black Widow obviously, because if they happened to change weapons, she knows how to shoot arrows, while Hawkeye doesn't have a maestry with firearms." Or "Who would win, Silver Surfer or the Thing? The Thing, because before being transformed he knew boxing, while Norrin Radd was only an astronomer."

      It makes no sense.

      PS: Regarding pre-Serum Cap. You forgot that he was rejected from the army for being 4-F. He was sick and fragile. I don't think he could even try to win a fight against pre-suit Tony Stark.

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    • He might beat him in a art off

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    • Bumblebee073 wrote: If Iron Man didn't have his armor he would be crushed by Steve Rogers. Even with the 25 pounds of dead weight provided by his armor, Iron Man would be crushed. He has barely any natural fighting ability, just brains, while Cap has both Brains and Braun which complement each other perfectly. Before he was Captain America, Steve was an incredible strategist. Iron Man can shoot repulsers, BIG WHOOP! Even if they switched defenses (Tony Stark with the shield & Cap with the armor), Cap would still be able to figure the armor's tech out before Tony could figure out how to throw the shield, let alone having it come back. Therefore, Captain America WINS!

      Yep cause repulsers blast hurt about as much as wasp stings.Totaly!Seriously did you even read this before you posted it?

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    • To be fair Cap beat the crude out of Tony during the civil war and was only stopped after regular people made him

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    • Shiplord13 wrote: To be fair Cap beat the crude out of Tony during the civil war and was only stopped after regular people made him

      You mean after Vision phased through Iron Man's armor to incapacitate him, right?

      If I'm not mistaken, in Civil War #3 and #4, Iron Man beat up Cap really hard when they went toe to toe, without any kind of advantage.

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    • ADour wrote:

      Bumblebee073 wrote: If Iron Man didn't have his armor he would be crushed by Steve Rogers. Even with the 25 pounds of dead weight provided by his armor, Iron Man would be crushed. He has barely any natural fighting ability, just brains, while Cap has both Brains and Braun which complement each other perfectly. Before he was Captain America, Steve was an incredible strategist. Iron Man can shoot repulsers, BIG WHOOP! Even if they switched defenses (Tony Stark with the shield & Cap with the armor), Cap would still be able to figure the armor's tech out before Tony could figure out how to throw the shield, let alone having it come back. Therefore, Captain America WINS!

      you have a great point

      Are you defining which character wins in a brawl by doing anything but making them go against each other in their normal ways?

      It's like "Who would win, Hawkeye or Black Widow? Black Widow obviously, because if they happened to change weapons, she knows how to shoot arrows, while Hawkeye doesn't have a maestry with firearms." Or "Who would win, Silver Surfer or the Thing? The Thing, because before being transformed he knew boxing, while Norrin Radd was only an astronomer."

      It makes no sense.

      PS: Regarding pre-Serum Cap. You forgot that he was rejected from the army for being 4-F. He was sick and fragile. I don't think he could even try to win a fight against pre-suit Tony Stark.

      good point
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    • i dont see how ppl think cap would win!

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    • I think cap would actually win after seeing captain america and iron man heroes united, it changed my perspective ALOT!

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    • I think Iron Man would win.

      Putting aside animated kiddie movies which make of "I have a plan, attack!" Iron Man's prime attitude towards fighting aside, Iron Man is a great strategist.

      Not only that. The systems of his armors are incredibly advanced. Like Tony said in Civil War, "[The armor] knows your next move before you do." And that was right before beating Captain America so bad, he had to be rescued by Hercules.

      That, combined with Tony's ability to outmaneuver even Spider-Man and the Human Torch could render Steve's shield useless. Pretty much like the Winter Soldier did in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

      So. What can Captain America do now without his shield?

      For hand-to-hand combat, Iron Man possesses micro-explosives, sleeping gas, sonic attacks (like he used against Cap during Civil War), energy blades, and the mere strenght of his suit which is capable of hitting the Hulk. What could Captain America's strenght do to Iron Man, whose armor is capable of resisting blows from the Hulk?

      In case Cap would try to distance himself, Iron Man has his repulsor blasts with an incredibly advanced target system which makes him capable of hitting adversaries as agile as Nightcrawler or Dark Elves, missiles, and multi-vectorial repulsor rays which are capable of knocking out Mole Man's creatures.

      Defensively, Stark's armor can protect him from beings as strong as the Hulk, and it possesses a shield capable of blocking missile explosions.


      Short version: Trying to argue "Iron Man vs. Captain America" is almost like arguing "Superman vs. Batman."

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    • NOT EVEN A COMPARISON

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    • I got to agree with Beaver those are two unrelated battles

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    • Both arguments are about a fairly superior hero to one who's basically powerless, but highly trained.

      You just can't say they're not comparable.

      Plus, note the "almost." I'm not saying Iron Man is Superman.

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    • I more referring to the fact that Batman is not like Captain America, who would go in with just his shield, while Batman would come out with a plan to take out Superman and would be prepared to defeat him, which could make the fight go either way

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    • Batman is pretty much like Captain America, actually. The similarities between those two has been explored in both Marvel vs. DC and Avengers/JLA.

      Captain America is a strategist, too. What makes you think he couldn't devise a plan as well? Didn't he plan how to tackle Iron Man in both their encounters during Civil War?

      Still, in a prepared battle, I don't think Cap would win. In an unprepared battle, even less.

      Similar with Batman and Superman. The extremes to which some people take the "preparation" factor is astonishing. "Oh, yeah. With preparation, Batman would use a Kryptonite suit." Well, couldn't with preparation Superman just blast Batman from the other side of the planet or perform a seed punch? Wouldn't with preparation Superman use one of the anti-Kryptonite suits he has had?

      This is why I think imaginary battles with prep-time are BS.

      But, we're just beating around the bush around this tangent. We should focus on "Captain America vs. Iron Man," right?

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    • Idk maybe iron man could win....I am now neutral with this argument, it could go either way in my opinion

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    • Well, I supported my argument with facts. That's the most I can do.

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    • I guess cap has big chances to win because Stark Armor need energy resource that will down after too much usage. But Cap has ability to survive until it happens and then Stark nothing before him but a metal trash.

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    • My vote with Captain America because he is best in every thing

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    • Jamesjamiebend07 wrote: My vote with Captain America because he is best in every thing

      if this was a marvel DC crossover, that would be so wrong, batman is alot more skilled in just about everything
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    • Beaverboy777 wrote:

      Jamesjamiebend07 wrote: My vote with Captain America because he is best in every thing

      if this was a marvel DC crossover, that would be so wrong, batman is alot more skilled in just about everything

      Did you know that in Avengers/JLA #2, Batman admitted Cap would win in a fight against him?

      Mary230 wrote: I guess cap has big chances to win because Stark Armor need energy resource that will down after too much usage. But Cap has ability to survive until it happens and then Stark nothing before him but a metal trash.

      But... How could Cap survive against a war machine with missiles, repulsor rays, shields, pulse bolts, nerve gas, sonic attacks, and more? I mean, Iron Man totally beat up Cap in Civil War #3.

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    • Its not like he is going into this blind he knows what Iron Man has and will also use tools to help him

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    • Shiplord13 wrote: Its not like he is going into this blind he knows what Iron Man has and will also use tools to help him

      Tools such as?

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    • Something that could mess with his suit that, similar to what he did also during the Civil War

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    • Shiplord13 wrote: Something that could mess with his suit that, similar to what he did also during the Civil War

      Wouldn't that end in the same way it did in Civil War? Iron Man quickly rebooted his suit and beat Cap up really bad.

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    • Yes, but Cap will be going one on one with Iron Man and not have to worry about any of Tony's allies coming to the rescue.

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    • So. Cap would temporarily shut down Iron Man's suit.

      What is he going to do? Punch a still-armored-thus-protected guy?

      What is he going to do as soon as Tony reboots his suit?

      Considering they would be fighting, how would Cap be able to get close enough to Tony to pin him that device? The last time he fake-hand shaked him, you really see this happening in a fight we'll say Tony is willing to fight unlike in Civil War?

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    • Cap could put it on during the fight and uses his shield when Tony's suit is shutdown. You can't still believe this fight is so one sided

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    • How would he put it when Iron Man's main type of attack is ranged? What would the shield do? It can't crack the armor, it never has.

      I don't think this fight is one sided, but the odds are definetely on Iron Man's favor.

      You're saying Cap has a chance if he manages to put a device which will only temporarily disable the armor. If he's able to get close to Tony. If a device of such nature would work again.

      Why aren't you considering Iron Man's possibilities? Missiles, sonics, repulsors, nerve gas, bolts, tasers, lasers, shields. Iron Man could basically win the fight 5 meters away from Cap.

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    • To be fair when has Iron Man ever broken Cap's shield and as for the missile, sonics, repulsor, nerve gas, and ect, its not like Cap has never dealt with those types of problems before.

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    • True that. Like in Civil War #3. Iron Man used sonics on Cap. And it wasn't good for the Man with a Plan. At all.

      Regarding Cap's shield: It can't block attacks from every side (unlike Iron Man's energy shield).

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote:

      Jamesjamiebend07 wrote: My vote with Captain America because he is best in every thing

      if this was a marvel DC crossover, that would be so wrong, batman is alot more skilled in just about everything

      My dear friend... Definitely Batman has more skills but here we talking about Captain America v/s Iron Man. :)

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    • yeah i know im just sayin

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    • Beaverboy777 wrote: yeah i know im just sayin

      Okay dude... Cool :)

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    • I just learned that captain america has actually even caught a missile before! A GOSHDANG MISSILE!!!!!!!

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    • When and how?

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    • i dont know but i heard it on a video form variantcomics on youtube, not sure when or how it happened, but these guys dont make stuff up

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    • I guess. But was it a small missile, or what? Did he catch it or blocked it or whatever?

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    • idk just heard about it

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    • oops my bad it was a torpedo xD

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    • If Ironman is wearing the hulkbuster,he will win.

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    • Even if he wasn't, he would win.

      There's no better example than Civil War #3. In that issue, Iron Man wasn't willing to fight, but Cap was. In the end, Cap had to be rescued by Hercules. The systems of the Iron Man armor had memorized Cap's fighting style, additionally, he used sonics to stun him. There's no need to mention that Iron Man is stronger than Cap.

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    • lets just count the limits, powers n weapons of these two.

      Captain America -

      unbreakable armor, superhuman strength (can lift 1200 lbs), superhuman athletic abilities. combat experience. Can use human weaponry.

      Limits - Bullets can penetrate. vulnerable to fire, electricity etc. Overall limited in every aspect.

      Ironman - (Technological advancement based on movies so far MARK 42)

      Armor(Resistive to high explosions, fire, electricity, Gamma radiation, radioactivity ), can lift 30-50 tons, Jarvis(Auto locking, Combat strategies, Guidance, Attack predictions, attack effectiveness, energy management, unprecedented reaction time n accuracy), tank missile, Penetrable Unibeam n Repulsor, one-time laser(can cut almost anything), Can fly at hyper-sonic speeds. Jarvis can operate it.

      Limits - There are limits but can't be reached(even 10%) by captain america.

      So even Jarvis itself can defeat him while tony is sleeping with pepper.

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    • Crynamics wrote: lets just count the limits, powers n weapons of these two.

      Captain America -

      unbreakable armor, superhuman strength (can lift 1200 lbs), superhuman athletic abilities. combat experience. Can use human weaponry.

      Limits - Bullets can penetrate. vulnerable to fire, electricity etc. Overall limited in every aspect.

      Ironman - (Technological advancement based on movies so far MARK 42)

      Armor(Resistive to high explosions, fire, electricity, Gamma radiation, radioactivity ), can lift 30-50 tons, Jarvis(Auto locking, Combat strategies, Guidance, Attack predictions, attack effectiveness, energy management, unprecedented reaction time n accuracy), tank missile, Penetrable Unibeam n Repulsor, one-time laser(can cut almost anything), Can fly at hyper-sonic speeds. Jarvis can operate it.

      Limits - There are limits but can't be reached(even 10%) by captain america.

      So even Jarvis itself can defeat him while tony is sleeping with pepper.

      I agree

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    • Zakor1138 wrote: Indestructible... except when it isn't. Also, Cap has more combat experience, I mean, he was in WWII. The dude can fight.

      Don't be ridiculous. This exact fight already happened, no shields on. Tony has recorded every single fight Steve has ever given. He reacts accordingly, by virtually anticipating his every move. Then he proceeds to beating him into a pulp. Stop being such a captain america fanboy....Rogers doesn't stand i single chance "defeating" Iron Man I even freakin created a new account to comment this.

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    • Omgcapsux wrote: Don't be ridiculous. This exact fight already happened, no shields on. Tony has recorded every single fight Steve has ever given. He reacts accordingly, by virtually anticipating his every move. Then he proceeds to beating him into a pulp. Stop being such a captain america fanboy....Rogers doesn't stand i single chance "defeating" Iron Man I even freakin created a new account to comment this.

      I am not a fanboy. I also never said Cap would win. Also, you created an account just to insult me? Wow. If anyone is acting like a fanboy, it's you.

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    • Anyone who says cap will win is

      1 die-hard fan so knowing the truth but intentionally not accepting it for obvious reason.

      or

      2 is a moron and a person with one of the worlds least observational and analyzing capabilities.

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    • Ok, this thread is getting ridiculous. Too many people making insults and making it easy for a flame war. This thread should be closed.

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    • ADour wrote:

      Beaverboy777 wrote:

      Jamesjamiebend07 wrote: My vote with Captain America because he is best in every thing

      if this was a marvel DC crossover, that would be so wrong, batman is alot more skilled in just about everything

      Did you know that in Avengers/JLA #2, Batman admitted Cap would win in a fight against him?

      Mary230 wrote: I guess cap has big chances to win because Stark Armor need energy resource that will down after too much usage. But Cap has ability to survive until it happens and then Stark nothing before him but a metal trash.

      But... How could Cap survive against a war machine with missiles, repulsor rays, shields, pulse bolts, nerve gas, sonic attacks, and more? I mean, Iron Man totally beat up Cap in Civil War #3.

      Batman said "it is conceivable you could beat me", he wasn't said Cap definitely can beat him.

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    • Also Iron Man wins.

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    • Crynamics wrote: Anyone who says cap will win is

      1 die-hard fan so knowing the truth but intentionally not accepting it for obvious reason.

      or

      2 is a moron and a person with one of the worlds least observational and analyzing capabilities.

      I think Iron Man would win but you don't have to be a dick.

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    • Iron-Man. Steve is an old man right now he has no chance! Okay but really Captain America he can most likely dodge (or use his Shield to block it) any attack iron-man has. Also although Tony is a VERY good tactician Cap is a better one. And I think Cap beat up Iron-Man in one comic.

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    • SpiderMatty wrote: Iron-Man. Steve is an old man right now he has no chance! Okay but really Captain America he can most likely dodge (or use his Shield to block it) any attack iron-man has. Also although Tony is a VERY good tactician Cap is a better one. And I think Cap beat up Iron-Man in one comic.

      Civil War #3 sure wasn't that comic. Right?

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    • ADour wrote:

      SpiderMatty wrote: Iron-Man. Steve is an old man right now he has no chance! Okay but really Captain America he can most likely dodge (or use his Shield to block it) any attack iron-man has. Also although Tony is a VERY good tactician Cap is a better one. And I think Cap beat up Iron-Man in one comic.

      Civil War #3 sure wasn't that comic. Right?

      No, no it was not.
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    • Hah! "Iron Man's suit has never been cracked by Cap"!! Try this on for size, bro:
      File:4317938-9475295217-19741.jpg
      !! Also, Cap uses his surroundings to win... stats and BLIND CAPABILITIES are nothing!! At the end of the day though, they are both awesome heroes!! I'm more of a Cap fan because of what he stands for and who he is!! Tony is a pretty beast hero, but Cap is so underestimated it isn't even funny!! I mean everyone says that "Bats will win every second fight because of 'prep'" when he faces of against god-like characters like Flash, Superman, and Manhunter (Im not taking away anything from Bats - HE IS SO BEAST)!! Cap and Bats are the same yet very, very different!! It is a tough opinionated conbo for sure!! But IMO Cap finds a way to win (Not taking anything away from Tony)!!
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    • LoneJLT wrote:

      Hah! "Iron Man's suit has never been cracked by Cap"!! Try this on for size, bro:
      File:4317938-9475295217-19741.jpg
      !! Also, Cap uses his surroundings to win... stats and BLIND CAPABILITIES are nothing!! At the end of the day though, they are both awesome heroes!! I'm more of a Cap fan because of what he stands for and who he is!! Tony is a pretty beast hero, but Cap is so underestimated it isn't even funny!! I mean everyone says that "Bats will win every second fight because of 'prep'" when he faces of against god-like characters like Flash, Superman, and Manhunter (Im not taking away anything from Bats - HE IS SO BEAST)!! Cap and Bats are the same yet very, very different!! It is a tough opinionated conbo for sure!! But IMO Cap finds a way to win (Not taking anything away from Tony)!!

      Vision disabled Iron Man's armor in that comic, so Cap wasn't alone.

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    • Also, of course Cap's Shield can crack Iron Man's armor.

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    • Primestar3 wrote: Also, of course Cap's Shield can crack Iron Man's armor.

      It can't. Immediately. After Vision messed up Iron Man's armor in Civil War's final battle, it took some time for Cap to crack the suit.

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    • ADour wrote:

      Primestar3 wrote: Also, of course Cap's Shield can crack Iron Man's armor.

      It can't. Immediatelly, after Vision messed up Iron Man's armor in Civil War's final battle, it took some time for Cap to crack the suit.

      Captain America's shield made out of Vibranium (and Adamantium, I think but I maybe wrong) while Iron Man's armor is made out of...Umm I don't know but I'm sure Cap's shield is harder.

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    • Primestar3 wrote:

      ADour wrote:

      Primestar3 wrote: Also, of course Cap's Shield can crack Iron Man's armor.

      It can't. Immediatelly, after Vision messed up Iron Man's armor in Civil War's final battle, it took some time for Cap to crack the suit.

      Captain America's shield made out of Vibranium (and Adamantium, I think but I maybe wrong) while Iron Man's armor is made out of...Umm I don't know but I'm sure Cap's shield is harder.

      That an object is harden than other doesn't mean it will imediately crack. Also, Iron Man's suit is protected by a "highly complex matrix of molecularly-aligned fully crystallized ultra high carbon iron/steel hybrid alloy enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other ultra hyper alloys like titanium alloy," it's not just regular metal.

      Let's not forget that Tony has shields, which at 2% of power can withstand nuclear explosions.

      Cap would need to first past the shield before getting to the armor.

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    • LoneJLT wrote:

      Hah! "Iron Man's suit has never been cracked by Cap"!! Try this on for size, bro:
      File:4317938-9475295217-19741.jpg
      !! Also, Cap uses his surroundings to win... stats and BLIND CAPABILITIES are nothing!! At the end of the day though, they are both awesome heroes!! I'm more of a Cap fan because of what he stands for and who he is!! Tony is a pretty beast hero, but Cap is so underestimated it isn't even funny!! I mean everyone says that "Bats will win every second fight because of 'prep'" when he faces of against god-like characters like Flash, Superman, and Manhunter (Im not taking away anything from Bats - HE IS SO BEAST)!! Cap and Bats are the same yet very, very different!! It is a tough opinionated conbo for sure!! But IMO Cap finds a way to win (Not taking anything away from Tony)!!

      In your example, Vision had previously disabled Iron Man's armor (i.e. Cap cheated), here's how a fight between Captain America and Iron Man went with no third parties involved:

      Civil War Vol 1 3 page 19
      Civil War Vol 1 3 page 20
      Civil War Vol 1 4 page 5

      Cap might use his surroundings, but Iron Man has all the arsenal he needs in his suit of armor. Missiles, tasers, repulsor rays, magnetic field generators, sonic attacks, explosives, and more. Much more.

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    • ADour wrote:

      Primestar3 wrote:

      ADour wrote:

      Primestar3 wrote: Also, of course Cap's Shield can crack Iron Man's armor.

      It can't. Immediatelly, after Vision messed up Iron Man's armor in Civil War's final battle, it took some time for Cap to crack the suit.

      Captain America's shield made out of Vibranium (and Adamantium, I think but I maybe wrong) while Iron Man's armor is made out of...Umm I don't know but I'm sure Cap's shield is harder.

      That an object is harden than other doesn't mean it will imediately crack. Also, Iron Man's suit is protected by a "highly complex matrix of molecularly-aligned fully crystallized ultra high carbon iron/steel hybrid alloy enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other ultra hyper alloys like titanium alloy," it's not just regular metal.

      Let's not forget that Tony has shields, which at 2% of power can withstand nuclear explosions.

      Cap would need to first past the shield before getting to the armor.

      Well, anyway Iron Man would win, like you said.

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    • Is that not the cheapest of cheap shots? Cap was fighting someone else and tony pummels into him full force AND throws him through a building FACE first!! Haha, in my post he did have help from Vision as you said, but in the scenario you posted Cap preoccupied with another opponent #2v1!! Nice distraction whoever you are lol!! When Cap beat up IM it was ALSO A 2V1 (Cap and Vision vs IM)!! This looks like the situations leaned in their respective victories!! Now, I think Cap could find a way to disable Iron Man's suit regardless - some sort of gadget i guess - but IM's cheap shot was pretty weak and if you ask me (Also, seems like a one time thing)!! Now we will have to see who will win in Captain America 3 (maybe another non-1v1 vicory? I HOPE NOT!!)!! My money is on the one and only Cap!!

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    • LoneJLT wrote: Now we will have to see who will win in Captain America 3 (maybe another non-1v1 vicory? I HOPE NOT!!)!! My money is on the one and only Cap!!

      I think Cap will win in the movie because it's his movie, right?

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    • LoneJLT wrote: Is that not the cheapest of cheap shots? Cap was fighting someone else and tony pummels into him full force AND throws him through a building FACE first!! Haha, in my post he did have help from Vision as you said, but in the scenario you posted Cap preoccupied with another opponent #2v1!! Nice distraction whoever you are lol!! When Cap beat up IM it was ALSO A 2V1 (Cap and Vision vs IM)!! This looks like the situations leaned in their respective victories!! Now, I think Cap could find a way to disable Iron Man's suit regardless - some sort of gadget i guess - but IM's cheap shot was pretty weak and if you ask me (Also, seems like a one time thing)!! Now we will have to see who will win in Captain America 3 (maybe another non-1v1 vicory? I HOPE NOT!!)!! My money is on the one and only Cap!!

      In the time Cap would try to find a way to disable Iron Man's suit, Cap would've already been neutralized. Iron Man's tech is constantly changing, so it's not like a way to disable his suit could be easy.

      If it was a death battle, Iron Man could just command his Endo-Sym armor to wrap around Cap and crush him. He could also do that (without the crushing) to immobilize him. He did it with Daredevil, you know, the master combatant slash ninja who has fought Captain America to a standstill.

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    • IronMan FTW... There's really nothing else to say.

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    • It really all depends on what armor Iron-Man wears.

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    • We all know Stark would win. I am not 100% familiar with the comics, but judging by what I've seen in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and a few other info-sources, I find Tony with the upper hand. Captain America has a very hard time with technology, so I doubt he'd manage to disable the suit in one match. On the other hand, Stark has an entire arsenal of armors, from the Mark 1 to the godly Hulkbuster/Veronica (Comics V.S MCU). I notice that the Hulkbuster, and/or Thorbuster are not meant for battles against the super-soldier, but I bet they'd both have the strength to take him down. The Hulkbuster would be an obvious win, as he is meant for heavier battles against the Hulk, who is 20 times bigger than Cap. While Thorbuster? I dunno, I've just heard of him and decided to throw him in, as I find Thor himself extremely powerful. I need to get more comics, sorry guys.

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    • In the court of public opinion, and comic technology, I do agree "Iron Man FTW". However, Tony really loses in the end. He does what "evil doers" have been trying to do for 200+ years. He destroys America and the symbol it stands for. He might win the battle but he will lose the war. Tony is just arrogant and self-serving enough to not realize this, until it is too late.

      Now just for the sake of discussion, "What If" Steve were to contact Victor who's armor is on equal footing with Tony's if not a little better for some advice. How would his odds change?

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    • TABv1 wrote: In the court of public opinion, and comic technology, I do agree "Iron Man FTW". However, Tony really loses in the end. He does what "evil doers" have been trying to do for 200+ years. He destroys America and the symbol it stands for. He might win the battle but he will lose the war. Tony is just arrogant and self-serving enough to not realize this, until it is too late.

      Now just for the sake of discussion, "What If" Steve were to contact Victor who's armor is on equal footing with Tony's if not a little better for some advice. How would his odds change?

      If Cap doesn't know how to control Doctor Doom's armor, then he will lose.

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    • I never said wear Doom's armor. The word was "advice", sheesh.

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    • TABv1 wrote: I never said wear Doom's armor. The word was "advice", sheesh.

      oh sorry dude, I didn't see the word "advice".but still it changes nothing. Iron Man would have beat the s*it out of Captain America.

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    • Primestar3 wrote:

      TABv1 wrote: I never said wear Doom's armor. The word was "advice", sheesh.

      oh sorry dude, I didn't see the word "advice".but still it changes nothing. Iron Man would have beat the s*it out of Captain America.

      End o' story.

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    • if Iron Man will unleash all of his weapons... Captain America won't stand a chance coz he can't block em all you know?

      But they are no Match for THOR!!! he's very powerful and strong even without his mjolnir. just sayin...

      iron man wins over cap bow FIN

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    • Well, also the reason cap won't stand a chance because Tony has model 38 that can beat red hulk and actually go toe v toe against Thor. That suit made him one of the most powerful heroes in the world...

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    • Omgcapsux wrote: Well, also the reason cap won't stand a chance because Tony has model 38 that can beat red hulk and actually go toe v toe against Thor. That suit made him one of the most powerful heroes in the world...

      He can withstand Thor's blows from even the Extremis Armor.

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    • Hmm...tough call. I'll try and explain this cohesively and in detail.

      To the casual observer, Iron Man seems like the obvious winner. He's got the armour, a ton of firepower and gadgets, plus he can fly. Oh, and he's a genius, so he thinks ahead and has contingency plans. What chance does a soldier with a shield stand against all that, right? Well, there's a bit more to it than that.

      Captain America's superior traits are mostly invisible. He may look like merely an above-average strong-armed man with only an indestructible shield and some really good fighting skills, but there's a lot more to him than that. He's not just a top-notch tactician, he's actually leagues ahead the most brilliant General when it comes to strategy. He can analyze every course of action, every shield throw, and stay multiple steps ahead of his opponents. And while Iron Man is brilliant cognitively, it doesn't always measure up to combative know-how in most fights.

      Of course, this doesn't discount Iron Man's areas of expertise. His arsenal of guns, lasers, missiles, and his more complex inventions are sure to have Cap on the ropes in a number of varying fighting environments. But Iron Man's gadgets are just that, and his advantages tend to be breakable, which is a major vulnerability for him. I think his mental faculties are a far more valuable weapon than his physical ones, and when the two are combined it would be fair to say that Iron Man could put Cap in some very difficult situations. I could certainly see Iron Man as the more likely to gain the upper hand at the start of the fight.

      But there is something else to consider. Cap is someone who has a reputation for outmaneuvering his opponents when he's at a disadvantage, or even turning their own advantages against them. And he always gets back up when he's knocked down; this is a crucial trait for him that transcends insurmountable factors, and I don't think it's something people give him enough credit for. He might have a tough time dealing with something such as the Hulkbuster, but then again he has defeated far more intimidating opponents with nothing but his wits and his trusty shield.

      So, my answer, and I apologize if it's not a very helpful one, is that it could go either way. In a simulation of 100 fights where both are in peak condition and are allowed to fully use their resources, I'd be willing to bet that the numbers would be very close to 50/50, with some random variables leaning the marginal majority towards one or another. I think more people believe Iron Man to be the stronger superhero, but to me that has always seemed like the easy cop-out answer. What people often forget is that both Cap and Iron Man are familiar with the other's strengths/weaknesses and would probably take them into account in their fight. It's not a simple matter of how many guns Iron Man has, or how versatile Cap is as a fighter. What may seem like game-changers for us could be merely rudimentary factors to them, which is why the whole Cap/Iron Man rivalry has remained such an interesting debate.

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    • If it wasn't for Winter Soldier, Iron Man would have KOed Captain America. He knew Cap's moves, just like in the comic.

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    • Primestar3 wrote: If it wasn't for Winter Soldier, Iron Man would have KOed Captain America. He knew Cap's moves, just like in the comic.

      He'd win if it wasn't for movie logic. If bias was set aside, Stark would've fired his unibeam (at a low enough level NOT to blast a hole through Cap's chest), knocking Steve off his feet.

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    • FredbearShenanigans112 wrote:

      Primestar3 wrote: If it wasn't for Winter Soldier, Iron Man would have KOed Captain America. He knew Cap's moves, just like in the comic.

      He'd win if it wasn't for movie logic. If bias was set aside, Stark would've fired his unibeam (at a low enough level NOT to blast a hole through Cap's chest), knocking Steve off his feet.

      Agreed.

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    • Zakor1138 wrote:

      Beaverboy777 wrote: I still think iron man could win espeacialy if he uses the SKIN armor ( an armor made of adamantium) bye bye, steve

      or if tony uses the veronica . bye bye cap

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    • Well sir we're talking about a guy on steroids with a un breakable Bommarang Sheild Versus a Guy in a nearly Indestructible suit of Armor who can fly shoot lasers out of his hands and a super huge lazer out of his chest,can fire a missile that can destroy a similar armour to his that's 3 times his armours size. </div>Iron man's suit can be destroyed but Captain's shield can't

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    • Without suits; captain america With wuits, iron man.

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    • Jesus Christ, two years later and you're still going on about it

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    • It's because i 'am booring. I try to make a cryostasis machine to freeze me until december but I broke the refrigerator.

      December for multiple reasons (death of x, teen titans rebirth, x-men apocalypse the movie blu ray, suicide squad the movie blu ray, justice league dark the movie, etc).

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    • Iron man and captain america have done incredible things and feats and i like both of them but i think iron man would win. Iron man could call in another suit when the one he is currently wearing gets damaged and could use the hulkbuster which is meant for hulk who is way stronger than cap. Iron man could also use a suit with a magnet to disarm cap of his shield and then deliver a small hit (because he doesnt want to kill him) from his unibeam. Cap without his shield is vulnerable when going up against one of tonys shields. But cap would put up a great fight and is a great hero and keep in mind has done a lot of great things and is one of my favorite heros but in my opinion he would lose in a fight against tony.

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    • Sysage wrote: This fight appalls me. Iron Man would destroy Captain America. If we are talking about a straight up fight in which the winner is the one who kills his opponent then Iron Man would win right away. First of all Iron Man has enough strength to lift 100+ tons and at one point lifter a 16,000 ton nuclear warhead. The heaviest thing Captain America can lift is 1,000 pounds. That is a huge difference. In the speed department Iron Man still beats Captain America; at max flight he can fly faster than mach ten!!! His velocity is at five miles per second! Cap wouldn't be able to hit him. In durability Iron Man still wins, his energy shields and his armor allow him to survive nuclear blasts, rockets, torpedo, and high caliber bullets. A hit from cap would not effect him at all. Also if Captain throws his shield, Iron Man could catch it (due to faster reflexes). Don't get me started on energy projection, obviously Iron Man crushes that. Now in terms of intelligence and using the environment, obviously Iron Man since he can access satellites and see everything around him with his x-ray vision(see extremist). In terms of fighting Iron Man would dodge/withstand every hit from Cap and one full powered punch/repulser ray would drill a hole in Cap. Now why has Iron Man not killed Cap before? He hasn't because he wasn't trying to kill him, just arrest him.

      OMG. Ive been reading Iron man and Captain America long before you were born. Your concepts are extremely simplistic and not well thought out...Both heroes knew this battle was coming. Do you really think the universally acknowledged greatest soldier on earth would not be prepared ? in the MCU you have to accept the battle as it played out..why ? because they are [fricking] FICTIONAL CHARACTERS !..That being said, the CHARACTER Captain America can , in fact defeat Iron man. Why ? because h'es mentally tougher. Yes that's a cinematic AND comic book fact. He knows a hundred forms of combat which he can integrate randomly, making fight style predicting impossible. His Shield is FAR harder than Tonys armor and can every small joint weakness at the hands of CA.It can deflect Thors hammer, so it can certainly deflect and even turn back on themselves whatever Tony can fire at him. Cap is relatively unaffected by gas and can function through sonics...hes done it before...and he never quits..he has more heart..and if he needs to win the fight..he will.
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    • Steverychlec1 wrote:

      Sysage wrote: This fight appalls me. Iron Man would destroy Captain America. If we are talking about a straight up fight in which the winner is the one who kills his opponent then Iron Man would win right away. First of all Iron Man has enough strength to lift 100+ tons and at one point lifter a 16,000 ton nuclear warhead. The heaviest thing Captain America can lift is 1,000 pounds. That is a huge difference. In the speed department Iron Man still beats Captain America; at max flight he can fly faster than mach ten!!! His velocity is at five miles per second! Cap wouldn't be able to hit him. In durability Iron Man still wins, his energy shields and his armor allow him to survive nuclear blasts, rockets, torpedo, and high caliber bullets. A hit from cap would not effect him at all. Also if Captain throws his shield, Iron Man could catch it (due to faster reflexes). Don't get me started on energy projection, obviously Iron Man crushes that. Now in terms of intelligence and using the environment, obviously Iron Man since he can access satellites and see everything around him with his x-ray vision(see extremist). In terms of fighting Iron Man would dodge/withstand every hit from Cap and one full powered punch/repulser ray would drill a hole in Cap. Now why has Iron Man not killed Cap before? He hasn't because he wasn't trying to kill him, just arrest him.

      OMG. Ive been reading Iron man and Captain America long before you were born. Your concepts are extremely simplistic and not well thought out...Both heroes knew this battle was coming. Do you really think the universally acknowledged greatest soldier on earth would not be prepared ? in the MCU you have to accept the battle as it played out..why ? because they are [fricking] FICTIONAL CHARACTERS !..That being said, the CHARACTER Captain America can , in fact defeat Iron man. Why ? because h'es mentally tougher. Yes that's a cinematic AND comic book fact. He knows a hundred forms of combat which he can integrate randomly, making fight style predicting impossible. His Shield is FAR harder than Tonys armor and can find every small joint weakness in the hands of CA. It can deflect Thors hammer, so it can certainly deflect and even turn back on themselves whatever Tony can fire at him. Cap is relatively unaffected by gas and can function through sonics...hes done it before...and he never quits..he has more heart..and if he needs to win the fight..he will.
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    • Please watch your language.

      ...

      And don't forget the fact that sonic attacks have managed to heavily weaken Captain America (as seen in Civil War), Iron Man's armor has managed to predict his moves (both in comics and the movie, a major point in the latter as that's how Stark turned the tables in the final battle until Cap had assistance from Bucky), and is also capable of targeting and hitting much more agile and faster opponents such as Nightcrawler (a teleporter, no less) or Dark Elves. Captain America's shield doesn't guarantee he could shield himself from every attack, considering that thing can't cover his entire body all at once. And there's no guarantee either he can't be disarmed.

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    • 1 word HULKBUSTER that thing would mess up cap, Bucky, black Widow, hawkeye and anyone else. Cap won cuz it's his movie PERIOD

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    • Ok, Iron Man would have won if it wasn't Cap and Bucky! UNFAIR FIGHT! Also Cap cant bend metal, so good luck cap. And seriously how does he fight with a Frisbee? Fun Fact: Cap dies in the aftermath of Civil War, so why do we see him in the next movie!?

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    • I Think Iron Man Would Win

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