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:No problem. That was weirding me out a little.--[[User:Stature|Max]] 23:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

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Template:InVision Request

I saw that you created the Template:OnScreen. I was wondering if you'd consider a similar template for characters, locations, and items seen only in mystical visions. I used the Template:Green for Loki Laufeyson (Earth-616) and Hela (Earth-616) on Comics:Thor Vol 1 197, but mystical visions are commonplace enough in Marvel that I don't think it'd be out of line to have Template:InVision.

Thanks for putting so much work into this excellent resource!

~ Crusadercitadel 22:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

OK, I didn't even think to look at Template:Illusion when looking through the list of templates. Yes, an improved template that mentioned whose vision it is would be awesome! I would totally use it. Thanks so much!
~ Crusadercitadel 22:10, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks so much! It's simple, yet awesome. I understand combining illusions and visions, just like combing computer screens, television screens, and holograms makes sense. I just didn't think to look at Template:Illusion when going through Category:Templates.
~ Crusadercitadel 22:50, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
While we're talking about template redirects, shouldn't Template:Flashalso redirect to Template:Flashback? They're duplicitive in nature.
~ Crusadercitadel 23:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. Thank you!  :)
~ Crusadercitadel 23:14, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


J9 is fan art? Damn. Could have fooled me! --Squirrelloid 04:17, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page

yeah, like i said i always check 'em out, and i ran across it.. and oh nice new talk page! :) --Johnnybravo44 23:23, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

hey just letting you know the Iron Man Public Identity Comic is issue #2 that is released this Wednesday, not #1. came across that from the main page, had to tell you. :) thanks! -- Johnnybravo44 (talk) 07:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


Yea, honestly, I don't know what to do about it. I imagine it's possible to create some fancy javascript that detects what browser you're using and hides those 'float' issues for you, but I don't know where to start with something like that.

I saw the same thing with the ads until I logged in on the IE side. ;) (You were probably logged out in IE, but still logged in in FF, and PS, GET FF 3.6, it's amazing, and I just got it today).

We could also remove all the 'float' stuff on the site, but things aren't going to look as good on FF.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:31, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

The real trick is making the notification (login or die) abundantly clear without affecting the Google Rankings. Anything we put in at the top of the page gets in the way of that...
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:50, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


yeah, when i went through Alpha Flight the first time fixing up i just ignored the synopses, thinking them written from a contributor, but when i was browsing through another site i actually found out its just copied from, and figured this site would look better without copied material from another site, especially if the other site does not allow its material to be copied. but yeah thats pretty much why. lol. --Johnnybravo44 04:21, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


I'm giving it my best guestimate. I'm using character chronologies to land them in the spot that works best. At worst, I'd rather be off by a month or two than not have them appear on our calender at all. These dates are not set in stone.--Max 04:24, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

X-Factor Forever

do you know if an Earth number has been released for the X-Factor Forever series yet? also, why is the X-23 #1 comic up there on the main page? it should be X-23 Vol 2 #1. --Johnnybravo44 22:25, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to eavesdrop, but I noticed the X-23 thing, too. I have fixed it. Good catch!
Artful Dodger 01:27, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
Also eavesdropping, and no, no X-Factor Forever reality number yet. Probably take a few months, like it did with X-Men Forever.
--GrnMarvl14 01:48, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks! oh and i realized that there also seems to be a problem with the Captain America comic.. --Johnnybravo44 02:16, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Captain Britain

awesome dude! i thought theyd look better with the covers!
when i first edited them i probly should have typed in the text for the covers...
well, ill add them to the pages, and probly to other characters galleries page also. ;) thanks --Johnnybravo44 20:46, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Staff Categories

Sounds like a great idea, really. Categories generally get really complicated really quick, since you can't have one category be in another, and then have the second in the first without it coming out looking like crap. They're set up to be completely linear, like branches on a tree, and any use of them in more creative ways doesn't work all that well, in my experience. (Remember when we wanted to put all the Spider-Man pictures from all realities in one category? Yikes, that got ugly quick.)

In theory, if DPL had a list of names to use, it could create a list of the pages in those categories in the overall category, but I don't know if it could actually put those pages into the overall category. Since it's mostly a list generator, (that can also grab parts of templates), what you're generally going to get out of it is a written list. I'm sure something like that could be incorporated into the staff pages, but we also risk a higher server load when we have DPL actively doing something (meaning generating a new list every time the page is viewed).

There's got to be a solution out there that allows for multiple names to be put into one category. As I write this, I think about the #switch: function. I use it in a couple of massive ways to essentially change a name it's given into the correct version. Maybe creating a massive switch template and incorporating it into the comic template would be the best way to handle this. We'd end up looking at cutting down to one type of category per staff member, but we'd generally have to update this switch list all the time (like I have to do with the ones I use).

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:01, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Once we have a decent list (in a Template, of course), we can start integrating it into all the templates that use what's written in the creators fields of the comic template. Then, once the cache is updated, we'll be left with a few thousand categories to nuke! :)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:08, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, you could use DPL (or the list making function in AWB) to generate a list of all the names we already have in Marvel Staff, and then possibly use DPL to pull the pseudonyms from all those pages... maybe. Yikes.  ;)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:09, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
I think I got the list. Now on to the template and then into installation... :)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:49, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
So I made a couple changes, all the 'looked for' options in the staff template are in lower case, so any weird variations in case won't affect it's function. Then I found a couple places in the main template where the correction template wasn't necessary, and changed the function to like you talked about, so the categories and links point to the right place, but it shows whatever you put in.
The loading situation is worrysome, and I didn't play with adding this to the other stories, but I'd bet we could really take a good look at where we would need to use it versus where we actually are, and could probably find a more refined use of it. Kind of like how we did for the Cast Template, most in the first story, less in the second, etc.
I think another option would be to make multiple staff templates, one for each job, since there really aren't probably as many editors as writers, etc etc. This would probably be more work to maintain, and start with, but might end up being less of a server load, since each use of the specific templates would be much shorter than going through the entire list of staff members.
I don't know, but it makes me wonder how Comicvine is able to put all their creators in a dropdown, and search-suggest each name entered...
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 05:18, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

do you read deadpool comics?

the new ones are great... he reminds spidey a little bit. he meets him in the Suicide Kings :P

Second Coming

if you like Second Coming, you should check out my blog and guess which X-Man is going to die. --Johnnybravo44 18:49, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

50,000 edits

50,000 edits!!! woop! woop! party at your house! hahaha nice job! -- Johnnybravo44 (talk) 09:19, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Woo hoo! What are you buying us all to celebrate?!?!
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:45, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
I drank a beer for you all... best present ever! Thanks! ;) --M1shawhan 03:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks. Yeah Elixir killed Stryker and then he was brought back by Bastion. Then later killed again by Arachangel. I'd say Stryker is turning into a Cameron Hodge/Donald Pierce anyway. Dying MANY times, and always coming back... (Ironically all three just died in Second Coming)
But my idea for this actually started when I was watching X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I was thinking "dang! Sabretooth's killed a lot of characters! I wonder if the database has a category for all the ones he has killed..?" Later, I came across one on a Morlocks' page of Killed by Harpoon. I soon realized there were already some by Sabretooth, Wolverine, and others already, so I started making a lot and putting them on the characters pages. :)
-- Johnnybravo44 (talk) 06:28, June 09, 2010 (UTC)

character names

I'd kinda figured that out by now... ;) Most of the times, that seems the most reasonable thing to do, but in some instances, that just seems weird. Might be a pet peeve of mine, but my eyes hurt when I read "Charley" in brackets after Professor X - there's only one person who consequently calls him that. Sorry, I hope I didn't step on your toes by erasing(changing your work. A while ago, I'd noticed Freyseagrove adding the full names after the code names all the time and I thought "why not?", but it's not like I'm doing it myself in last consequence all the time. Often, it's more of a situation where I've reread an issue, made notes on the side and then come upon the page and find it's already complete. ;) Might be something to bring up in the forums? I've also considered whether putting the characters in alphabetical order might be sensible, especially with issues where there's a lot of characters involved.--edkaufman 22:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

ah, well, we can always go through the series again. I mean, it's not like Marvel is publishing so much stuff that we spend all our time reading new comics, is it now? (Now why do I have the feeling I just heard someone yelling, "GET A LIFE!"?) ;)
I just spent half of my vacation catching up with my notes from the last six months. Ah well, I suppose there are less relaxing ways to spend a vacation than spending on stories and characters you've loved for twenty years. ;)--edkaufman 22:56, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

X-Force and other pages

Come on Matt... get with the program! --M1shawhan 23:43, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok.. haha Yeah there is some warning above your message, which is above mine. It says warning vandalism, something about X-Force (Earth-616) and stuff like that if that helps.. Oh, but I dont see Category:Warned Users exactly there.. just the note above. --Johnnybravo44 02:13, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Iceman Omega

Going through the X-Men forever series again, I found a reference in ish #3, where Jean reads Xaier's notes saying (and referring to Jean and Bobby): "Are they too young yet, too immature, to fully comprehend the nature of their (how did Fred phrase it) Omega Level Mutant Abilities? Yet what he called Omega (the last) he meant as regards to an "ultimate threat," while I simply prefer to think of such mutant abilities as unlimited potential."

That's probably the one the guy meant when he added it. Personally, I find that one a little questionable. It's a supposition Xavier is basing on something Fred Duncan said. I suggest taking it out as a reference (or alternatively, we'd have to add the same for Jean). The 198 one, however is very clear and specific: "Although encounters with Mikhail Rasputin and Emma Frost have repeatedly allowed him glances at his potential as an omega-level mutant, Drake has never permitted himself to fully explore his abilities." And the 198 files would seem to count as a Handbook-equivalent sourec, so I guess it stands.--edkaufman 00:32, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Power Grids

Nah, my computer doesn't let me screenshot.. It has actually been doing this for a while (a while being about three weeks) although only on some characters' pages, and not others. I've looked up a TON of characters and now its all the same. The power grid itself shows up, but with no bars to the right at all. It just looks empty for some reason. I'm not really sure how to explain it other than that.. :( --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 01:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed on many pages that one bar is shown only with a number, and if I edit the page to check, it is always the last number (the fighting skills section) that overlaps at the top over the words power grid. For instance, on Adam X's page, I see a bar of 5 overlapping over 'power grid'. But thats it, nothing below it. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 16:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, I got a new laptop at the start of the summer, and it uses IE6. I didn't really notice a change in the power grids untill about the end of Juneish - start of Julyish, and it seemed to be limited. But I soon noticed it was on every character's page who even had one. So its got to be a combination of the two? --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 01:51, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
It's an absolute positioning thing for sure then, since each bar is in the same exact place, and you're only seeing the last bar 'rendered'. Not sure how to fix it just yet tho...
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 04:53, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

New Wikia Changes...

No, I haven't put us in for Beta yet. There's a discussion about it happening in the forums where I've basically outlined what I believe Wikia's steps will be given what has transpired in the past.

I'm not sure the Beta testing is the right route for us. If we can get it up and running on another wiki (maybe Image or Darkhorse?), then we can play with it there before changing the entire site here. Obviously, we're going to have to figure out how to use it before we get it here, so trying it out on a smaller, less seen wiki is probably better for us in the long run (IMHO).

It looks so different, I really hope the changeover pays off.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:54, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Shatterstar's Swords

Hey I'm glad you noticed this page! :) I may have not created it, but I am trying to help out some weapons' pages (Power Gauntlets, Warpath's Knives, and Shatterstar's Swords) with adding them in to images and comics. If you want, you can throw it into Comics:X-Force Vol 1. I might eventually, but I won't get the chance to go on much this week.. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 21:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


Please block this loser. They have tried to ruin characters' pages by erasing a lot of material and inserting profanity. I have undone all the immature edits, but they could strike again. Thanks. --Johnnybravo44 (talk) 22:12, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey there, sorry to eavesdrop; I noticed the user before, but this is very out of character for him. If you'll check his edits, you'll see that until now he just asked questions on the talk pages. could it be a case of kidnapped account?--edkaufman (talk) 08:12, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether most people realize they can still leave messages, even when they're blocked. I'll try and leave him a message there and see what he says.--edkaufman (talk) 00:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I, II, III, IV, V, etc

Oh yea! I forgot about those. I generally only made those edits on a certain user's contributions, since he insisted that Peter Parker was "Spider-Man I", which I believe is the road to insanity. ;)

Thanks for the heads up, I shouldn't be running that one again. :)

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 01:14, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

That was me, I didn't realize it wasn't being converted somewhere, I'll get the conversion up and running tonight, and we'll be back in business. :)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 23:12, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
For some reason, the current day is showing up as the 25th: {{#time: d}}:29, {{CURRENTDAY}}:29, so that's the reason Dream Logic isn't working right. Is there another further-out one that isn't working correctly?
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
Found the problem, there was an extra space before the year that wasn't accounted for in your releaseweek template. It should be all fixed now, and I sent the bot through to update the solicitations.
No, it's still in beta, they seem to be allowing one user at a time to use it, so it's kind of interesting.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 03:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


Yes, the Bot is in the Fantastic Four issues of 'F', and I started at about Midnight on Saturday. So in about 42 hours, of near-constant page moves, we've made it to Fa.

There are only two templates that really everything else leans on, Template:Cnst, and Template:CnstNL. Both of which, I've tried to edit so that they'll work both ways.

The problem is, DPL needs the name of the 'real' page, not the redirect to the page. So whenever DPL uses CnstNL to find the name of a page, it's often handed back a redirect, and not the actual page, which it results in showing nothing.

We need to figure out how to determine a page is a redirect or not without using code without DPL.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 23:38, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, kind-of. Cnst and CnstNL take a non-standard version of a comic name, usually TITLE #ISSUE, and converts it to the correct version: Comics:TITLE Vol VOLUME ISSUE. We can incorporate some DPL into these two templates to produce the target of the redirect, but that means we'd be using DPL for every single Template:C, Template:Cnst, and Template:CnstNL call across the site (of which, there are a lot).
You might have been suggesting that we change the DPL that uses CnstNL etc, so that it gets the target of the redirect instead, but then I think we're talking about changing a whole lot more templates.
I think there might be a third, less-slick option. If we test the first letter, possibly first two letters of the title, and say something like 'if it's before these two letters in the alphabet, take the comics: out, if it's further down the alphabet than these, leave Comics: in. I believe that's doable without DPL, but we'd have to update the test case fairly regularly to make it work. (I'm on 'Ge' now).
What would you like to try?
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 02:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


Replied to you both on my talk page. ;)

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 22:52, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Image Template Cleanup

Those are probably good ideas. I was thinking about making 'ImageType' not required, since it really only describes what is displayed in the image, and sometimes there isn't anything specific. I usually like to think of it as 'You uploaded the image to show something specific, what are you showing?', and sometimes that's hard to put into words. Scene is a little vague as a subject to me, but I'll put it in there anyway, since it'll probably get used.

Yea, I think we should plan for the future and add another Type, 'Solicitation Image' to the Types. That way, we're not tying the fact that it's's image to if it's a cover or not (since they sometimes solicit issue pages too).

You have been looking at this stuff! ;)

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 23:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. That was weirding me out a little.--Max 23:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
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