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{{Marvel Database:Comic Template
  
{{Marvel Database:Comic Template
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| Image = What If 21.jpg
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| Image = What If? Vol 1 21.jpg
 
| Month = June
  
| Month = June
 
| Year = 1980
  
| Year = 1980
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| Editor-in-Chief = Jim Shooter
  
| Editor-in-Chief = Jim Shooter
 
| CoverArtist1 = Gene Colan
  
| CoverArtist1 = Gene Colan
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| CoverArtist2 = Irv Watanabe
   
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| Quotation = So you can take my name off the roster, take back my number, and take your team and shove it! From now on, where Spider-Man swings-- he swings alone!
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| Quotation = So you can take my name off the roster, take back my number, and take your team and shove it! From now on, where Spider-Man swings-- he swings alone!
 
| Speaker = [[Peter Parker (Earth-772)|Spider-Man]]
  
| Speaker = [[Peter Parker (Earth-772)|Spider-Man]]
   
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| HeadTitle = What If... Sub-Mariner had Married the Invisible Girl?
  
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| Editor1_1 = O'Neil
  
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| Editor1_2 = Gruenwald
  
 
| Writer1_1 = Bill Mantlo
  
| Writer1_1 = Bill Mantlo
 
| Penciler1_1 = Gene Colan
  
| Penciler1_1 = Gene Colan
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| Colourist1_1 = Gaff
  
| Colourist1_1 = Gaff
 
| Letterer1_1 = Tom Orzechowski
  
| Letterer1_1 = Tom Orzechowski
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| StoryTitle1 = Decline and Fall!
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| Editor1_1 = Dennis O'Neil
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| Synopsis1 =
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| Editor1_2 = Mark Gruenwald
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| Appearing1 =
 
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| StoryTitle1 = What If Sub-Mariner Had Married the Invisible Girl? Chapter 1 Decline and Fall!
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| Synopsis1 = Continued from [[What If? Vol 1 1|What If? #1]]...
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Since Spider-Man joined the FF and Sue left to be with Namor, Reed and Johnny have done little to hide their bitterness and are frequently over-critical of Spidey in battle, driving him to eventually quit in frustration. Ben, disappointed with Reed's attitude, soon leaves as well. It's then that Namor arrives at the Baxter Building at Susan's behest to invite her friends for a visit. Reed and Johnny refuse to hear him and attack until Namor leaves, warning them that Atlantis is prepared to respond in kind to any more belligerence. Heedless, Reed and Johnny go to the UN with a doctored video of their conversation with Namor to make it look like Atlantis is on the verge of making a pre-emptive strike, but their warmongering is foiled when Ben shows up with the original footage. Still determined to get back at Namor, Reed and Johnny set out to invade Atlantis by themselves.
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| Appearing1 =
 
'''Featured Characters:'''
  
'''Featured Characters:'''
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* [[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Four]]
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* {{a|[[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Four]]}}
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** [[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]
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** {{a|[[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]}}
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** [[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-772)|Thing]]
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** {{a|[[Benjamin Grimm (Earth-772)|Thing]]}}
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** [[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]
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** {{a|[[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]}}
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** [[Peter Parker (Earth-772)|Spider-Man]]
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** {{apn|[[Peter Parker (Earth-772)|Spider-Man]]|What If? Vol 1 1|What If? Vol 2 35}}
 
'''Supporting Characters:'''
  
'''Supporting Characters:'''
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* [[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|Namor the Submariner]]
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* {{a|[[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|Namor the Submariner]]}}
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* [[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]
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* {{a|[[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]}}
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* [[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]
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* {{a|[[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]}}
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'''Villains:'''
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'''Antagonists:'''
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* [[Kl'rt (Earth-772)|The Super-Skrull]] {{1st}}
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* {{1st|[[Kl'rt (Earth-772)|The Super-Skrull]]}}
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* [[Dorma (Earth-772)|Lady Dorma]] {{1st}}
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* {{1st|[[Dorma (Earth-772)|Lady Dorma]]}}
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* [[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]] {{1st}}
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* {{1st|[[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]]}}
 
'''Other Characters:'''
  
'''Other Characters:'''
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* [[Ivan Kragoff (Earth-772)|The Red Ghost]] {{fb}}
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* {{fb|[[Ivan Kragoff (Earth-772)|The Red Ghost]]}}
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* [[Mad Thinker (Earth-772)|Mad Thinker]] {{fb}}
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* {{fb|[[Mad Thinker (Earth-772)|Mad Thinker]]}}
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:* [[Awesome Android (Earth-772)|Awesome Android]] {{fb}}
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:* {{fb|[[Awesome Android (Earth-772)|Awesome Android]]}}
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* [[Victor von Doom (Earth-772)|Doctor Doom]] {{fb}}
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* {{fb|[[Victor von Doom (Earth-772)|Doctor Doom]]}}
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* Alicia Masters {{g|Mentioned}}
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* [[Alicia Masters (Earth-772)|Alicia Masters]] {{g|Mentioned}}
 
* Secretary General of the United Nations
  
* Secretary General of the United Nations
 
'''Locations:'''
  
'''Locations:'''
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* [[Earth-772]]
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* {{a|[[Earth-772]]}}
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** [[New York City]]
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** {{a|[[New York City]]}}
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** The [[Chrysler Building (Earth-616)|Chrysler Building]]
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** {{a|[[Chrysler Building]]}}
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** [[Atlantis]]
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** {{a|[[Atlantis (Byrrah)|Atlantis]]}}
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** The [[Baxter Building]]
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** {{a|[[Baxter Building]]}}
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** The [[United Nations]] Building
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** {{a|[[United Nations]]}}
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* [[Blue Area of the Moon|The Blue Area of the Moon]]
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* {{a|[[Blue Area of the Moon]]}}
 
'''Items:'''
  
'''Items:'''
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* [[Spider-Man's Web-Shooters|Spider-Man's Webshooters]]
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* {{a|[[Web-Shooters|Spider-Man's Webshooters]]}}
 
* The Daily Bugle (Newspaper)
  
* The Daily Bugle (Newspaper)
 
* Reed's [[Cerebra]]-Helmet
  
* Reed's [[Cerebra]]-Helmet
 
'''Vehicles:'''
  
'''Vehicles:'''
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* [[Fantasti-Car MK II|The Fantasti-Car]]
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* {{a|[[Fantasti-Car MK II|The Fantasti-Car]]}}
   
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| Editor2_1 = O'Neil
  
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| Editor2_2 = Gruenwald
  
 
| Writer2_1 = Bill Mantlo
  
| Writer2_1 = Bill Mantlo
 
| Penciler2_1 = Gene Colan
  
| Penciler2_1 = Gene Colan
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| Colourist2_1 = Gaff
  
| Colourist2_1 = Gaff
 
| Letterer2_1 = Tom Orzechowski
  
| Letterer2_1 = Tom Orzechowski
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| StoryTitle2 = Two Against Atlantis!
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| Editor2_1 = Dennis O'Neil
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| Synopsis2 =
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| Editor2_2 = Mark Gruenwald
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| StoryTitle2 = Chapter 2 Two Against Atlantis!
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| Synopsis2 = Using oxytablets to breathe and flame-on underwater, Mr.Fantastic and the Human Torch attack Atlantis head-on. Namor fights the Torch, refusing to allow the Atlantean army to get involved for Susan's family's safety. Reed uses the distraction to plant an "ultra-weapon" in the heart of Atlantis, planning to escape with Sue before it dooms the kingdom. Little does he suspect that Susan has just gone into labor...
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| Appearing2 =
 
| Appearing2 =
 
'''Featured Characters:'''
  
'''Featured Characters:'''
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* [[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|King Namor, the Sub-Mariner]]
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* {{a|[[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|King Namor, the Sub-Mariner]]}}
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* [[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]
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* {{a|[[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]}}
 
'''Supporting Characters:'''
  
'''Supporting Characters:'''
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* [[Atlanteans]]
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* {{a|[[Homo mermanus|Atlanteans]]}}
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:* [[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]]
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:* {{a|[[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]]}}
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'''Villains:'''
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'''Antagonists:'''
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* [[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Two]]
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* {{a|[[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Two]]}}
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** [[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]
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** {{a|[[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]}}
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** [[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]
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** {{a|[[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]}}
 
'''Other Characters:'''
  
'''Other Characters:'''
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* [[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]
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* {{a|[[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]}}
 
'''Locations:'''
  
'''Locations:'''
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* [[Earth-772]]
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* {{a|[[Earth-772]]}}
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** [[Atlantis]]
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** {{a|[[Atlantis (Byrrah)|Atlantis]]}}
 
'''Items:'''
  
'''Items:'''
 
* Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
  
* Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
 
* Reed's Ultra-Weapon
  
* Reed's Ultra-Weapon
 
'''Vehicles:'''
  
'''Vehicles:'''
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* [[Fantasti-Car MK II|The Fantasti-Car]]
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* {{a|[[Fantasti-Car MK II|The Fantasti-Car]]}}
   
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| Editor3_1 = O'Neil
  
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| Editor3_2 = Gruenwald
  
 
| Writer3_1 = Bill Mantlo
  
| Writer3_1 = Bill Mantlo
 
| Penciler3_1 = Gene Colan
  
| Penciler3_1 = Gene Colan
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| Colourist3_1 = Gaff
  
| Colourist3_1 = Gaff
 
| Letterer3_1 = Tom Orzechowski
  
| Letterer3_1 = Tom Orzechowski
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| StoryTitle3 = Harvest of Shame!
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| Editor3_1 = Dennis O'Neil
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| Editor3_2 = Mark Gruenwald
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| Synopsis3 = {{Quote|Harm the woman I love, Dorma? Hardly Likely! But what's wrong with her? What have done to my Sue?! She's so-- so large!|Ladies' Man, Reed Richards}}
  
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| StoryTitle3 = Chapter 3 Harvest of Shame!
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| Synopsis3 = {{Quote|Harm the woman I love, Dorma? Hardly Likely! But what's wrong with her? What have you done to my Sue?! She's so-- so large!|Ladies' Man, Reed Richards}}
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Reed finds Sue with her midwives and Namor catches up with a defeated Torch. Reed taunts Namor as the Ultra-Weapon starts to take effect by taking the Atlanteans' water-breathing and turning them into air-breathers, which will force a mass emigration to the surface world where Namor will no longer hold any power. Though he's convinced he can get Sue back this way, Dorma points out that she and her unborn child won't survive the shock of transition in this state. Reed gradually recognizes the horror of his actions and changes his mind, but before he can get to the Ultra-Weapon, Krang dies trying to turn it off himself. After Reed disables the device and the danger is past, he agrees to finally let Sue go, just as her and Namor's son is born. Johnny, however, is not ready to forgive, and swears he'll get his sister back no matter who stands in his way.
   
 
| Appearing3 =
 
| Appearing3 =
 
'''Featured Characters:'''
  
'''Featured Characters:'''
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* [[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|King Namor, the Sub-Mariner]]
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* {{a|[[Namor McKenzie (Earth-772)|King Namor, the Sub-Mariner]]}}
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* [[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]
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* {{a|[[Susan Storm (Earth-772)|The Invisible Girl, Queen of Atlantis]]}}
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* {{1st|[[Leonard McKenzie II (Earth-772)|Leonard McKenzie II]]}}
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* Sue and Namor's Son
  
 
'''Supporting Characters:'''
  
'''Supporting Characters:'''
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* [[Atlanteans]]
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* {{a|[[Homo mermanus|Atlanteans]]}}
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:* [[Dorma (Earth-772)|Lady Dorma]]
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:* {{a|[[Dorma (Earth-772)|Lady Dorma]]}}
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:* [[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]] {{death}}
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:* {{death|[[Krang (Earth-772)|Warlord Krang]]}}
 
:* Sue's Midwives
  
:* Sue's Midwives
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'''Villains:'''
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'''Antagonists:'''
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* [[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Two]]
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* {{a|[[Fantastic Five (Earth-772)|The Fantastic Two]]}}
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** [[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]
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** {{a|[[Reed Richards (Earth-772)|Mr. Fantastic]]}}
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** [[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]
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** {{a|[[Jonathan Storm (Earth-772)|Human Torch]]}}
 
'''Other Characters:'''
  
'''Other Characters:'''
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* [[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]
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* {{a|[[Uatu (Earth-616)|Uatu the Watcher]]}}
 
'''Locations:'''
  
'''Locations:'''
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* [[Earth-772]]
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* {{a|[[Earth-772]]}}
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** [[Atlantis]]
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** {{a|[[Atlantis (Byrrah)|Atlantis]]}}
 
'''Items:'''
  
'''Items:'''
 
* Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
  
* Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
 
* Reed's Ultra-Weapon {{g|Destroyed}}
  
* Reed's Ultra-Weapon {{g|Destroyed}}
 
'''Vehicles:'''
  
'''Vehicles:'''
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* None
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* <br/>
   
 
| Notes =
 
| Notes =
 
* Continued from {{c|What If? #1}} and in {{c|What If? Vol 2 #35}}
  
* Continued from {{c|What If? #1}} and in {{c|What If? Vol 2 #35}}
   
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* Includes an advertisement ''The Trap'' featuring Spider-Man for Hostess Twinkies.
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* Includes a letters page ''Why Not?'', with sections ''How About?'' and ''The Watcher Knows...''.
   
 
| Trivia =
 
| Trivia =

Revision as of 11:51, 1 January 2020

Quote1 So you can take my name off the roster, take back my number, and take your team and shove it! From now on, where Spider-Man swings-- he swings alone! Quote2
—Spider-Man

Appearing in "What If Sub-Mariner Had Married the Invisible Girl? Chapter 1 Decline and Fall!"

Featured Characters:

Supporting Characters:

Antagonists:

Other Characters:

Locations:

Items:

Vehicles:

Synopsis for "What If Sub-Mariner Had Married the Invisible Girl? Chapter 1 Decline and Fall!"

Continued from What If? #1...

Since Spider-Man joined the FF and Sue left to be with Namor, Reed and Johnny have done little to hide their bitterness and are frequently over-critical of Spidey in battle, driving him to eventually quit in frustration. Ben, disappointed with Reed's attitude, soon leaves as well. It's then that Namor arrives at the Baxter Building at Susan's behest to invite her friends for a visit. Reed and Johnny refuse to hear him and attack until Namor leaves, warning them that Atlantis is prepared to respond in kind to any more belligerence. Heedless, Reed and Johnny go to the UN with a doctored video of their conversation with Namor to make it look like Atlantis is on the verge of making a pre-emptive strike, but their warmongering is foiled when Ben shows up with the original footage. Still determined to get back at Namor, Reed and Johnny set out to invade Atlantis by themselves.

Appearing in "Chapter 2 Two Against Atlantis!"

Featured Characters:

Supporting Characters:

Antagonists:

Other Characters:

Locations:

Items:

  • Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
  • Reed's Ultra-Weapon

Vehicles:

Synopsis for "Chapter 2 Two Against Atlantis!"

Using oxytablets to breathe and flame-on underwater, Mr.Fantastic and the Human Torch attack Atlantis head-on. Namor fights the Torch, refusing to allow the Atlantean army to get involved for Susan's family's safety. Reed uses the distraction to plant an "ultra-weapon" in the heart of Atlantis, planning to escape with Sue before it dooms the kingdom. Little does he suspect that Susan has just gone into labor...

Appearing in "Chapter 3 Harvest of Shame!"

Featured Characters:

Supporting Characters:

Antagonists:

Other Characters:

Locations:

Items:

  • Oxy-Tablets (To breathe underwater)
  • Reed's Ultra-Weapon (Destroyed)

Vehicles:


Synopsis for "Chapter 3 Harvest of Shame!"

Quote1 Harm the woman I love, Dorma? Hardly Likely! But what's wrong with her? What have you done to my Sue?! She's so-- so large! Quote2
—Ladies' Man, Reed Richards

Reed finds Sue with her midwives and Namor catches up with a defeated Torch. Reed taunts Namor as the Ultra-Weapon starts to take effect by taking the Atlanteans' water-breathing and turning them into air-breathers, which will force a mass emigration to the surface world where Namor will no longer hold any power. Though he's convinced he can get Sue back this way, Dorma points out that she and her unborn child won't survive the shock of transition in this state. Reed gradually recognizes the horror of his actions and changes his mind, but before he can get to the Ultra-Weapon, Krang dies trying to turn it off himself. After Reed disables the device and the danger is past, he agrees to finally let Sue go, just as her and Namor's son is born. Johnny, however, is not ready to forgive, and swears he'll get his sister back no matter who stands in his way.

Notes

  • Includes an advertisement The Trap featuring Spider-Man for Hostess Twinkies.
  • Includes a letters page Why Not?, with sections How About? and The Watcher Knows....

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